Saudi brothers on KLM jet took flight classes with 9/11 hijacker
 

Saudi brothers on KLM jet took flight classes with 9/11 hijacker


WASHINGTON (AFP) - Two Saudi passengers on a Mexico-bound Dutch plane,
forced last week to return to the Netherlands over security concerns, were
brothers who attended the same U.S.-based flight school as a hijacker
involved in the September 11 terror attacks.

The report was in Newsweek magazine on Sunday.

The April 8 KLM flight was forced to return to the Netherlands after U.S.
anti-terror authorities refused to allow the plane entry to U.S. airspace
and Canadian officials declined to allow the plane to land on its territory.

According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, at least one of two
Saudis on the flight had previously been deported from the United States,
and the names of both brothers appear on a so-called "no-fly" list compiled
by the Homeland Security department.

U.S. officials said both men had undergone pilot training with September 11
hijacker Hani Hanjour, according to a separate report Sunday in Time
magazine, which wrote that the KLM flight carrying 287 passengers was
diverted to London, where the men were questioned by Dutch authorities and
later released because they were not on any Dutch watch list.

U.S. counterterrorism officials say intelligence indicates Al-Qaeda may be
planning to use foreign-based airliners to launch an attack against the U.S.
homeland and fear that Mexico with its porous border may become a staging
ground for that assault.

But Newsweek magazine reported that the brothers told authorities they were
visiting their ill father, a retired Saudi diplomat who is living in Mexico.
U.S. authorities told the magazine that the brothers' story appeared to be
holding up.

"I just don't think this was a plot along the lines of 9/11," an official
told Newsweek.

Meanwhile, Time reported that the U.S. no-fly list has grown from 19,000
names to 31,000, and that the U.S. Transportation Security Administration
(TSA) is seeking to expand the use of the no-fly list in the wake of the KLM
incident.

The TSA is proposing that all foreign airlines -- even those not flying to a
US destination -- check their manifests against the list if they are flying
over US airspace, according to the magazine, but some airlines reportedly
have strong objections, fearing the policy could dent the heavy summer
travel season.

ZZZZZZ

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...


Saudi brothers on KLM jet took flight classes with 9/11 hijacker


WASHINGTON (AFP) - Two Saudi passengers on a Mexico-bound Dutch plane,
forced last week to return to the Netherlands over security concerns, were
brothers who attended the same U.S.-based flight school as a hijacker
involved in the September 11 terror attacks.

The report was in Newsweek magazine on Sunday.

The April 8 KLM flight was forced to return to the Netherlands after U.S.
anti-terror authorities refused to allow the plane entry to U.S. airspace
and Canadian officials declined to allow the plane to land on its
territory.

According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, at least one of two
Saudis on the flight had previously been deported from the United States,
and the names of both brothers appear on a so-called "no-fly" list
compiled
by the Homeland Security department.

U.S. officials said both men had undergone pilot training with September
11
hijacker Hani Hanjour, according to a separate report Sunday in Time
magazine, which wrote that the KLM flight carrying 287 passengers was
diverted to London, where the men were questioned by Dutch authorities and
later released because they were not on any Dutch watch list.

U.S. counterterrorism officials say intelligence indicates Al-Qaeda may be
planning to use foreign-based airliners to launch an attack against the
U.S.
homeland and fear that Mexico with its porous border may become a staging
ground for that assault.

But Newsweek magazine reported that the brothers told authorities they
were
visiting their ill father, a retired Saudi diplomat who is living in
Mexico.
U.S. authorities told the magazine that the brothers' story appeared to be
holding up.

"I just don't think this was a plot along the lines of 9/11," an official
told Newsweek.

Meanwhile, Time reported that the U.S. no-fly list has grown from 19,000
names to 31,000, and that the U.S. Transportation Security Administration
(TSA) is seeking to expand the use of the no-fly list in the wake of the
KLM
incident.

The TSA is proposing that all foreign airlines -- even those not flying to
a
US destination -- check their manifests against the list if they are
flying
over US airspace, according to the magazine, but some airlines reportedly
have strong objections, fearing the policy could dent the heavy summer
travel season.

On 21/04/05 7:17, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... ZZZZZZ

Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not giving a
damn, and you
are only looking silly.



Runge is sensitive, being on a no-fly list.

Earl

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:17:47 +0200, Magda
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... ZZZZZZ

Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not giving a damn, and you
are only looking silly.

Never mind he was only making fun of Evleth's endless cut and paste
jobs of stuff anyone can read for themselves. And, of course, he
doesn't give a damn. He is only interested in posting endless leftist
crap Maggot.

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:17:47 +0200, Magda
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... ZZZZZZ

Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not giving a damn, and you
are only looking silly.

Never mind he was only making fun of Evleth's endless cut and paste
jobs of stuff anyone can read for themselves. And, of course, he
doesn't give a damn. He is only interested in posting endless leftist
crap Maggot.

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:35:47 +0200, Earl Evleth
wrote:

On 21/04/05 7:17, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... ZZZZZZ

Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not giving a
damn, and you
are only looking silly.



Runge is sensitive, being on a no-fly list.

Earl

Yeah, so sensitive he fell asleep. HAHAHA!

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:35:47 +0200, Earl Evleth
wrote:

On 21/04/05 7:17, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... ZZZZZZ

Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not giving a
damn, and you
are only looking silly.



Runge is sensitive, being on a no-fly list.

Earl

Yeah, so sensitive he fell asleep. HAHAHA!

"nitram" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:17:47 +0200, Magda
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... ZZZZZZ

Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not giving
a damn, and you
are only looking silly.

Get your plonking machine repaired and turn into an rte plonker,
Magda.

She'd prefer to waste electrons picking on Runge,
who is not giving a damn. She's looked silly all
along.

"nitram" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:17:47 +0200, Magda
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... ZZZZZZ

Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not giving
a damn, and you
are only looking silly.

Get your plonking machine repaired and turn into an rte plonker,
Magda.

She'd prefer to waste electrons picking on Runge,
who is not giving a damn. She's looked silly all
along.

Magda wrote:

[...]

Too optimist for my own good...

Too *optimistic.*
--
dgs

Magda wrote:

[...]

Too optimist for my own good...

Too *optimistic.*
--
dgs

On 22/04/05 7:52, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:22:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, dgs

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda wrote:
...
... [...]
...
... Too optimist for my own good...
...
... Too *optimistic.*

I'm an optimist. The attitude is maybe optimistic.

The issue of the Saudi brothers is key. They were on an American terrorist
list because they had taken flight training in the USA (a lot of Saudis
have, legitimately). One issue is if they people are authentically dangerous
why are they free, the Saudi Government can be hard on these people.

The other possibility is that people get on the no-fly list (30,000 are) for
both good and poor reasons, the list is possibly a catch-all. The news
yesterday revealed the following item--

It reminds one of

I found the actual quote as follows:

"Tuez-les tous; Dieu reconnaitra les siens."

Arnaud-Amaury, Abbot of Citeaux, 1209, when asked what to do with the
citizens of Beziers who were a mixture of Catholics and Cathars.

Earl

****

Muslims sue US homeland security over border detentions

www.chinaview.cn 2005-04-21 16:22:29


****BEIJING, April 21 -- Five Muslim-Americans have sued the US Homeland
Security Department alleging racial profiling.

****They say it happened when they were detained and fingerprinted by border
agents after returning from a religious conference in Canada.

****The three men and two w omen say they were held, along with dozens of
other US Muslims, for more than six hours and interrogated, photographed and
fingerprinted against their will in December last year.

****The lawsuit alleges that the plaintiffs were singled out after telling
customs officials they had attended a "Reviving the Islamic Spirit"
conference in Toronto.

****The annual Islamic conference draws thousands of Muslims from Canada,
the United States and overseas.

****The suit charges that the government violated the group's constitutional
rights to practice religion and performed unlawful searches.

****Donna Lieberman is executive director of the New York Civil Liberties
Union, which is helping represent the plaintiffs.

****She says the lawsuit is not about money damages, but about vindicating
individual rights.

****"What the government did here is a clear case of profiling, ethnic and
religious profiling, which is antithetical to core American values and which
is never okay," Donna Lieberman*said.*

****Arsalan Iftikhar is National Legal Director for the Council on
American-Islamic Relations.

****He's condemning what he calls "over-zealous and counter-productive
ethnic and religious profiling".

****He says it's encouraged by government security policies in the wake of
the September 11th attacks.

****"Unfortunately, again, it seems that in the post-9/11 world that we live
in today, American Muslims are guilty until proven innocent," Arsalan
Iftikhar*said.*

****One of the plaintiffs, Sawsaan Tabbaa, an orthodontist from New York,
says the experience at the border crossing was the most humiliating she has
ever gone through.

****Tabbaa refused to be digitally fingerprinted on the grounds that she had
done nothing wrong, but was physically forced into compliance.

****Tabbaa said, "It was unbelievable. I am proud of being American but I
couldn't believe my eyes something like this could happen."

****U.S. Customs and Border Protection defends the actions, saying that its
priority mission is to prevent terrorists and their weapons from entering
this country.

****In the past, the agency has denied the use of profiling at the borders
but says intelligence has shown that conferences similar to the one in
Toronto have been used by terrorist organizations.

Bouarff

"Magda" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:25:14 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, nitram
arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :

... On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:17:47 +0200, Magda
... wrote:
...
... On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"

... arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... ... ZZZZZZ
...
... Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not
giving a damn, and you
... are only looking silly.
...
... Get your plonking machine repaired and turn into an rte plonker,
... Magda.

I don't killfile such people - I mark their posts read, hoping for the day
when they shall
(may ?) say something worth reading.

Too optimist for my own good...

Bouarff

"Magda" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:25:14 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, nitram
arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :

... On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:17:47 +0200, Magda
... wrote:
...
... On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:36:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "Runge"

... arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... ... ZZZZZZ
...
... Will you please stop wasting electrons to pick on Earl ? He is not
giving a damn, and you
... are only looking silly.
...
... Get your plonking machine repaired and turn into an rte plonker,
... Magda.

I don't killfile such people - I mark their posts read, hoping for the day
when they shall
(may ?) say something worth reading.

Too optimist for my own good...

Chiant

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On 22/04/05 7:52, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:22:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, dgs

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda wrote:
...
... [...]
...
... Too optimist for my own good...
...
... Too *optimistic.*

I'm an optimist. The attitude is maybe optimistic.

The issue of the Saudi brothers is key. They were on an American
terrorist
list because they had taken flight training in the USA (a lot of Saudis
have, legitimately). One issue is if they people are authentically
dangerous
why are they free, the Saudi Government can be hard on these people.

The other possibility is that people get on the no-fly list (30,000 are)
for
both good and poor reasons, the list is possibly a catch-all. The news
yesterday revealed the following item--

It reminds one of

I found the actual quote as follows:

"Tuez-les tous; Dieu reconnaitra les siens."

Arnaud-Amaury, Abbot of Citeaux, 1209, when asked what to do with the
citizens of Beziers who were a mixture of Catholics and Cathars.

Earl

****

Muslims sue US homeland security over border detentions

www.chinaview.cn 2005-04-21 16:22:29


BEIJING, April 21 -- Five Muslim-Americans have sued the US Homeland
Security Department alleging racial profiling.

They say it happened when they were detained and fingerprinted by border
agents after returning from a religious conference in Canada.

The three men and two w omen say they were held, along with dozens of
other US Muslims, for more than six hours and interrogated, photographed
and
fingerprinted against their will in December last year.

The lawsuit alleges that the plaintiffs were singled out after telling
customs officials they had attended a "Reviving the Islamic Spirit"
conference in Toronto.

The annual Islamic conference draws thousands of Muslims from Canada,
the United States and overseas.

The suit charges that the government violated the group's constitutional
rights to practice religion and performed unlawful searches.

Donna Lieberman is executive director of the New York Civil Liberties
Union, which is helping represent the plaintiffs.

She says the lawsuit is not about money damages, but about vindicating
individual rights.

"What the government did here is a clear case of profiling, ethnic and
religious profiling, which is antithetical to core American values and
which
is never okay," Donna Lieberman said.

Arsalan Iftikhar is National Legal Director for the Council on
American-Islamic Relations.

He's condemning what he calls "over-zealous and counter-productive
ethnic and religious profiling".

He says it's encouraged by government security policies in the wake of
the September 11th attacks.

"Unfortunately, again, it seems that in the post-9/11 world that we live
in today, American Muslims are guilty until proven innocent," Arsalan
Iftikhar said.

One of the plaintiffs, Sawsaan Tabbaa, an orthodontist from New York,
says the experience at the border crossing was the most humiliating she
has
ever gone through.

Tabbaa refused to be digitally fingerprinted on the grounds that she had
done nothing wrong, but was physically forced into compliance.

Tabbaa said, "It was unbelievable. I am proud of being American but I
couldn't believe my eyes something like this could happen."

U.S. Customs and Border Protection defends the actions, saying that its
priority mission is to prevent terrorists and their weapons from entering
this country.

In the past, the agency has denied the use of profiling at the borders
but says intelligence has shown that conferences similar to the one in
Toronto have been used by terrorist organizations.

Chiant

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On 22/04/05 7:52, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:22:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, dgs

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda wrote:
...
... [...]
...
... Too optimist for my own good...
...
... Too *optimistic.*

I'm an optimist. The attitude is maybe optimistic.

The issue of the Saudi brothers is key. They were on an American
terrorist
list because they had taken flight training in the USA (a lot of Saudis
have, legitimately). One issue is if they people are authentically
dangerous
why are they free, the Saudi Government can be hard on these people.

The other possibility is that people get on the no-fly list (30,000 are)
for
both good and poor reasons, the list is possibly a catch-all. The news
yesterday revealed the following item--

It reminds one of

I found the actual quote as follows:

"Tuez-les tous; Dieu reconnaitra les siens."

Arnaud-Amaury, Abbot of Citeaux, 1209, when asked what to do with the
citizens of Beziers who were a mixture of Catholics and Cathars.

Earl

****

Muslims sue US homeland security over border detentions

www.chinaview.cn 2005-04-21 16:22:29


BEIJING, April 21 -- Five Muslim-Americans have sued the US Homeland
Security Department alleging racial profiling.

They say it happened when they were detained and fingerprinted by border
agents after returning from a religious conference in Canada.

The three men and two w omen say they were held, along with dozens of
other US Muslims, for more than six hours and interrogated, photographed
and
fingerprinted against their will in December last year.

The lawsuit alleges that the plaintiffs were singled out after telling
customs officials they had attended a "Reviving the Islamic Spirit"
conference in Toronto.

The annual Islamic conference draws thousands of Muslims from Canada,
the United States and overseas.

The suit charges that the government violated the group's constitutional
rights to practice religion and performed unlawful searches.

Donna Lieberman is executive director of the New York Civil Liberties
Union, which is helping represent the plaintiffs.

She says the lawsuit is not about money damages, but about vindicating
individual rights.

"What the government did here is a clear case of profiling, ethnic and
religious profiling, which is antithetical to core American values and
which
is never okay," Donna Lieberman said.

Arsalan Iftikhar is National Legal Director for the Council on
American-Islamic Relations.

He's condemning what he calls "over-zealous and counter-productive
ethnic and religious profiling".

He says it's encouraged by government security policies in the wake of
the September 11th attacks.

"Unfortunately, again, it seems that in the post-9/11 world that we live
in today, American Muslims are guilty until proven innocent," Arsalan
Iftikhar said.

One of the plaintiffs, Sawsaan Tabbaa, an orthodontist from New York,
says the experience at the border crossing was the most humiliating she
has
ever gone through.

Tabbaa refused to be digitally fingerprinted on the grounds that she had
done nothing wrong, but was physically forced into compliance.

Tabbaa said, "It was unbelievable. I am proud of being American but I
couldn't believe my eyes something like this could happen."

U.S. Customs and Border Protection defends the actions, saying that its
priority mission is to prevent terrorists and their weapons from entering
this country.

In the past, the agency has denied the use of profiling at the borders
but says intelligence has shown that conferences similar to the one in
Toronto have been used by terrorist organizations.

Earl Evleth wrote:

On 22/04/05 7:52, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:22:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, dgs

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda wrote:
...
... [...]
...
... Too optimist for my own good...
...
... Too *optimistic.*

I'm an optimist. The attitude is maybe optimistic.

The issue of the Saudi brothers is key. They were on an American terrorist
list because they had taken flight training

..(insert)..with Muhammed Atta...(end insert)

in the USA (a lot of Saudis
have, legitimately). One issue is if they people are authentically dangerous
why are they free, the Saudi Government can be hard on these people.

The other possibility is that people get on the no-fly list (30,000 are) for
both good and poor reasons, the list is possibly a catch-all. The news
yesterday revealed the following item--

It reminds one of

I found the actual quote as follows:

"Tuez-les tous; Dieu reconnaitra les siens."

Arnaud-Amaury, Abbot of Citeaux, 1209, when asked what to do with the
citizens of Beziers who were a mixture of Catholics and Cathars.

Earl

****

Muslims sue US homeland security over border detentions

www.chinaview.cn 2005-04-21 16:22:29

BEIJING, April 21 -- Five Muslim-Americans have sued the US Homeland
Security Department alleging racial profiling.

They say it happened when they were detained and fingerprinted by border
agents after returning from a religious conference in Canada.

The three men and two w omen say they were held, along with dozens of
other US Muslims, for more than six hours and interrogated, photographed and
fingerprinted against their will in December last year.

The lawsuit alleges that the plaintiffs were singled out after telling
customs officials they had attended a "Reviving the Islamic Spirit"
conference in Toronto.

The annual Islamic conference draws thousands of Muslims from Canada,
the United States and overseas.

The suit charges that the government violated the group's constitutional
rights to practice religion and performed unlawful searches.

Donna Lieberman is executive director of the New York Civil Liberties
Union, which is helping represent the plaintiffs.

She says the lawsuit is not about money damages, but about vindicating
individual rights.

"What the government did here is a clear case of profiling, ethnic and
religious profiling, which is antithetical to core American values and which
is never okay," Donna Lieberman said.

Arsalan Iftikhar is National Legal Director for the Council on
American-Islamic Relations.

He's condemning what he calls "over-zealous and counter-productive
ethnic and religious profiling".

He says it's encouraged by government security policies in the wake of
the September 11th attacks.

"Unfortunately, again, it seems that in the post-9/11 world that we live
in today, American Muslims are guilty until proven innocent," Arsalan
Iftikhar said.

One of the plaintiffs, Sawsaan Tabbaa, an orthodontist from New York,
says the experience at the border crossing was the most humiliating she has
ever gone through.

Tabbaa refused to be digitally fingerprinted on the grounds that she had
done nothing wrong, but was physically forced into compliance.

Tabbaa said, "It was unbelievable. I am proud of being American but I
couldn't believe my eyes something like this could happen."

U.S. Customs and Border Protection defends the actions, saying that its
priority mission is to prevent terrorists and their weapons from entering
this country.

In the past, the agency has denied the use of profiling at the borders
but says intelligence has shown that conferences similar to the one in
Toronto have been used by terrorist organizations.

Earl Evleth wrote:

On 22/04/05 7:52, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:22:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, dgs

arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda wrote:
...
... [...]
...
... Too optimist for my own good...
...
... Too *optimistic.*

I'm an optimist. The attitude is maybe optimistic.

The issue of the Saudi brothers is key. They were on an American terrorist
list because they had taken flight training

..(insert)..with Muhammed Atta...(end insert)

in the USA (a lot of Saudis
have, legitimately). One issue is if they people are authentically dangerous
why are they free, the Saudi Government can be hard on these people.

The other possibility is that people get on the no-fly list (30,000 are) for
both good and poor reasons, the list is possibly a catch-all. The news
yesterday revealed the following item--

It reminds one of

I found the actual quote as follows:

"Tuez-les tous; Dieu reconnaitra les siens."

Arnaud-Amaury, Abbot of Citeaux, 1209, when asked what to do with the
citizens of Beziers who were a mixture of Catholics and Cathars.

Earl

****

Muslims sue US homeland security over border detentions

www.chinaview.cn 2005-04-21 16:22:29

BEIJING, April 21 -- Five Muslim-Americans have sued the US Homeland
Security Department alleging racial profiling.

They say it happened when they were detained and fingerprinted by border
agents after returning from a religious conference in Canada.

The three men and two w omen say they were held, along with dozens of
other US Muslims, for more than six hours and interrogated, photographed and
fingerprinted against their will in December last year.

The lawsuit alleges that the plaintiffs were singled out after telling
customs officials they had attended a "Reviving the Islamic Spirit"
conference in Toronto.

The annual Islamic conference draws thousands of Muslims from Canada,
the United States and overseas.

The suit charges that the government violated the group's constitutional
rights to practice religion and performed unlawful searches.

Donna Lieberman is executive director of the New York Civil Liberties
Union, which is helping represent the plaintiffs.

She says the lawsuit is not about money damages, but about vindicating
individual rights.

"What the government did here is a clear case of profiling, ethnic and
religious profiling, which is antithetical to core American values and which
is never okay," Donna Lieberman said.

Arsalan Iftikhar is National Legal Director for the Council on
American-Islamic Relations.

He's condemning what he calls "over-zealous and counter-productive
ethnic and religious profiling".

He says it's encouraged by government security policies in the wake of
the September 11th attacks.

"Unfortunately, again, it seems that in the post-9/11 world that we live
in today, American Muslims are guilty until proven innocent," Arsalan
Iftikhar said.

One of the plaintiffs, Sawsaan Tabbaa, an orthodontist from New York,
says the experience at the border crossing was the most humiliating she has
ever gone through.

Tabbaa refused to be digitally fingerprinted on the grounds that she had
done nothing wrong, but was physically forced into compliance.

Tabbaa said, "It was unbelievable. I am proud of being American but I
couldn't believe my eyes something like this could happen."

U.S. Customs and Border Protection defends the actions, saying that its
priority mission is to prevent terrorists and their weapons from entering
this country.

In the past, the agency has denied the use of profiling at the borders
but says intelligence has shown that conferences similar to the one in
Toronto have been used by terrorist organizations.

More info @
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7529185/site/newsweek/

More info @
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7529185/site/newsweek/

On 23/04/05 1:22, in article ,
"Poetic Justice" wrote:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7529185/site/newsweek/

The article was a good one, I had read portions of it otherwise as reported
elsewhere.

It was not a simple case of "traveling while Arab", since the background
material was worrisome. But also the comment that -----

"There are so many people on that watch list that shouldn't be on it,"
explained a U.S. official privy to the KLM case. "But you have to err on the
side of caution in the post-9/11 world."

That is the same kind of argument white police in the US used when stopping
black motorists. The Americans have always had a bad case of going after
just about anybody. The FBI has a long record of being used against "left
wingers" who displeased the mentalities of both the director (J. Edgar
Hoover at one time) and those in the FBI. This historically most serious
case was putting into concentration camps of Japanese Americans during
WWII, a decision which was backed by the august Supreme Court. Hysteria
is the name of the game. All such acts involve a loss in freedom for
rest of us. It is not recognized as so at the time but authoritarian
governments love being bossy.

Earl