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MCKAY john July 19th, 2006 09:24 AM

To Spain across the mid Pyrenees border
 
Does anyone have first hand information on crossing the border from
near LANNEMEZAN (65330) and local traffic on the Spainsh side with
a view to making it by train to Madrid. ?Jaca ? CanFranc ? Any
help welcome. Mid August.

Nige July 19th, 2006 06:03 PM

To Spain across the mid Pyrenees border
 

"MCKAY john" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have first hand information on crossing the border from
near LANNEMEZAN (65330) and local traffic on the Spainsh side with
a view to making it by train to Madrid. ?Jaca ? CanFranc ? Any
help welcome. Mid August.


I once went up the valley of the ASPE past Bedous and Accous and arrived at
Etsaut. Just up the road/valley from Etsaut is where the GR10 "Pyrenees walk
" crosses and going south east towards the Mediterranean there is a
fantastic path cut out of the cliff face called Chemin de la Mature.
Wonderful history and an interesting walk.
Further up the valley is the summit and the Col du Somport.
Below is the tunnel linking France with Spain that has not been in use since
an accident in 1970. The wonderful CANFRANC station was going to be an
International border station but is now in a bit of a sorry state.
Apparently there is a bus linking Oloron with Canfranc so the rail
passengers can actually make this crossing but without the use of the
tunnel.http://www.canfranc.com/accesos.htm
This is an interesting site :http://www.canfranc.de/starte.htm

For trains from Canfranc to Zaragoza look up www.renfe.es




Nige July 19th, 2006 06:18 PM

To Spain across the mid Pyrenees border
 

"Nige" wrote in message
...

"MCKAY john" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have first hand information on crossing the border from
near LANNEMEZAN (65330) and local traffic on the Spainsh side with
a view to making it by train to Madrid. ?Jaca ? CanFranc ? Any
help welcome. Mid August.


I once went up the valley of the ASPE past Bedous and Accous and arrived
at Etsaut. Just up the road/valley from Etsaut is where the GR10 "Pyrenees
walk " crosses and going south east towards the Mediterranean there is a
fantastic path cut out of the cliff face called Chemin de la Mature.
Wonderful history and an interesting walk.
Further up the valley is the summit and the Col du Somport.
Below is the tunnel linking France with Spain that has not been in use
since an accident in 1970. The wonderful CANFRANC station was going to be
an International border station but is now in a bit of a sorry state.
Apparently there is a bus linking Oloron with Canfranc so the rail
passengers can actually make this crossing but without the use of the
tunnel.http://www.canfranc.com/accesos.htm
This is an interesting site :http://www.canfranc.de/starte.htm

For trains from Canfranc to Zaragoza look up www.renfe.es


It appears that the old railway tunnel has now been opened for road use and
so links France and Spain at this point. Presumably there are now more
regular means of getting through by public transport.
http://www.pyrenees-atlantiques.equi...aq-somport.pdf



Nige July 19th, 2006 07:45 PM

To Spain across the mid Pyrenees border
 

"MCKAY john" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have first hand information on crossing the border from
near LANNEMEZAN (65330) and local traffic on the Spainsh side with
a view to making it by train to Madrid. ?Jaca ? CanFranc ? Any
help welcome. Mid August.


map of the railways in ARAGON province - Canfranc to Zaragoza - from the
Spanish rail web site:
http://www.renfe.es/mediadistancia/mapa_centro.html



Nige July 19th, 2006 10:52 PM

To Spain across the mid Pyrenees border
 

"Martin Theodor Ludwig" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:18:19 +0100, "Nige" wrote:

Further up the valley is the summit and the Col du Somport.
Below is the tunnel linking France with Spain that has not been in use
since an accident in 1970. The wonderful CANFRANC station was going to
be
an International border station but is now in a bit of a sorry state.


It appears that the old railway tunnel has now been opened for road use
and so links France and Spain at this point.


Not quite correct - there was a new road tunnel built a few years ago.
And in the old rail tunnel I've observed some work - as the rumour got
it, it's slightly(?) refurbished that it can be used for emergencies or
evacuation of the (almost parallel) road tunnel.

Regards, Martin


Oh I thought they had used the route of the old rail tunnel - but looking at
this very informative piece, it seems that the old rail tunnel is as you say
used for emergency evacuations. QUOTE: A novelty for two-way tunnels is that
this tunnel will be equipped with evacuation galleries every 400 metres
connected to the railway tunnel, not in use at the present time. When this
railway tunnel is reopened in the future, the mission of the galleries will
be double, attending to the safety in both tunnels.UNQUOTE So it seems that
the rail line may also open in the future !
http://www.ita-aites.org/cms/835.html



Nige July 23rd, 2006 12:24 PM

To Spain across the mid Pyrenees border
 

"MCKAY john" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have first hand information on crossing the border from
near LANNEMEZAN (65330) and local traffic on the Spainsh side with
a view to making it by train to Madrid. ?Jaca ? CanFranc ? Any
help welcome. Mid August.


This is taken from the French railways web and shows the timetable for the
route from PAU to Canfranc.
http://www.ter-sncf.com/Images/Pau_O...cm17-21387.pdf
This shows a map of the rail link between Pau and Oloron.

http://www.ter-sncf.com/Images/09-Pa...tcm17-6241.jpg

Until the railway is restored, the French run a bus service from Oloron to
Canfranc. At Canfranc you can find a train to Zaragossa. www.renfe.es



Nige July 24th, 2006 09:43 AM

To Spain across the mid Pyrenees border
 

"MCKAY john" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have first hand information on crossing the border from
near LANNEMEZAN (65330) and local traffic on the Spainsh side with
a view to making it by train to Madrid. ?Jaca ? CanFranc ? Any
help welcome. Mid August.


This is taken from the French railways web and shows the timetable for the
route from PAU to Canfranc.
http://www.ter-sncf.com/Images/Pau_O...cm17-21387.pdf
This shows a map of the rail link between Pau and Oloron.

http://www.ter-sncf.com/Images/09-Pa...tcm17-6241.jpg

Until the railway is restored, the French run a bus service from Oloron to
Canfranc. At Canfranc you can find a train to Zaragossa. www.renfe.es




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