Driver Licensing not about highway safety
Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that laws
against endangerment did not already serve, and instead only serves fiscal greed. Read about it at: http://proffsl.110mb.com/driver_licensing.php |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"proffsl" wrote in message
oups.com... Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that laws against endangerment did not already serve, and instead only serves fiscal greed. I don't agree, but, driver licensing is here to stay. Might as well get used to it. If it were fiscal greed, it would cost a couple hundred dollars to get a license. License information also helps solve a lot of crimes, offer identification and let others know that the people with the licenses had to provide some proof that they were somewhat competent to drive motor vehicles. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
Alohacyberian wrote on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:55:26 GMT:
A "proffsl" wrote in message A oups.com... ?? Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that ?? laws against endangerment did not already serve, and ?? instead only serves fiscal greed. ?? A I don't agree, but, driver licensing is here to stay. Might A as well get used to it. If it were fiscal greed, it would A cost a couple hundred dollars to get a license. License A information also helps solve a lot of crimes, offer A identification and let others know that the people with the A licenses had to provide some proof that they were somewhat A competent to drive motor vehicles. KM You could probably make a case against car license plates too! At one time, you could get used to the pattern in a state. which facilitated reading quickly. It's much more complicated now in my state of MD. We have ABC123, 1AB C23, 123M456, M12345, vanity plates, private organizational plates like UMD 1234 and I don't know what else. They don't even issue new plates unless you ask for them or, sometimes, buy a new car but it's a healthy hunk of change each year for the little plastic sticker! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"James Silverton" wrote in message
news:hrQHi.2500$ec2.803@trnddc03... Alohacyberian wrote on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:55:26 GMT: A "proffsl" wrote in message A oups.com... ?? Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that ?? laws against endangerment did not already serve, and ?? instead only serves fiscal greed. ?? A I don't agree, but, driver licensing is here to stay. Might A as well get used to it. If it were fiscal greed, it would A cost a couple hundred dollars to get a license. License A information also helps solve a lot of crimes, offer A identification and let others know that the people with the A licenses had to provide some proof that they were somewhat A competent to drive motor vehicles. KM You could probably make a case against car license plates too! At one time, you could get used to the pattern in a state. which facilitated reading quickly. It's much more complicated now in my state of MD. We have ABC123, 1AB C23, 123M456, M12345, vanity plates, private organizational plates like UMD 1234 and I don't know what else. They don't even issue new plates unless you ask for them or, sometimes, buy a new car but it's a healthy hunk of change each year for the little plastic sticker! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Yes, license plates, stickers and registrations are a much better example of fiscal greed than are driver licenses. I suppose the original poster may be sour-grapes because s/he had a license revoked and probably for good reason. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
Alohacyberian wrote:
"proffsl" wrote in message oups.com... Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that laws against endangerment did not already serve, and instead only serves fiscal greed. I don't agree, but, driver licensing is here to stay. Might as well get used to it. If it were fiscal greed, it would cost a couple hundred dollars to get a license. License information also helps solve a lot of crimes, offer identification and let others know that the people with the licenses had to provide some proof that they were somewhat competent to drive motor vehicles. That article is a crock. Driver licensing does ensure that drivers have completed written and road tests to demonstrate that they understand the traffic laws in their state or province and that they are capable of handling a motor vehicle safely. Enforcement of rules of the road is a way to try to force compliance with the law, and liability suits are yet another means of forcing compliance. Unfortuneatley, too many people think only of themselves and refuse to accept that they could be caught in violation or get into an accident. Licensing standards have improved road safety. Graduated licensing for new drivers has improved road safety. Medical suspensions for people with physical and mental problems have improved road safety. Demerit points for driving violations have improved road safety. To suggest that there is no merit to driver licensing is just plain foolish. I worked for a short time as a driver examiner and I can tell you how bad some of those new drivers are, and how bad some of the senior drivers are. Some people should not be allowed behind the wheel of a car. |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:57:54 -0700, proffsl
wrote: Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that laws against endangerment did not already serve, and instead only serves fiscal greed. Read about it at: http://proffsl.110mb.com/driver_licensing.php I did read a few of your pages - that one, education, creation. I kept going just to see if you managed to actually write something intelligent. You're a twit. Seek help. Cheers, Alan, Australia |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
"Alohacyberian" wrote:
"proffsl" wrote in message Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that laws against endangerment did not already serve, and instead only serves fiscal greed. I don't agree, but, driver licensing is here to stay. Might as well get used to it. With an attitude like that, it's sure to prolong it's life. BUT, nothing is here to stay. We live in a world where everthing comes to an end. Get use to it. And, in the mean time, get use to the idea of standing up for your Rights. If it were fiscal greed, it would cost a couple hundred dollars to get a license. Driver Licensing. License Plates. Tickets for not wearing a seat belt. Auto inspections. Mandatory Liability (how do you think insurance companies got that pushed through, if not by shoving money into somebody's pocket?) In addition to fiscal greed, it's also about fiscal exertion of "authority" over citizens, as if we are their subjects. License information also helps solve a lot of crimes, We are not obligated to sacrifice our Rights in order to make the police's job easire. Fact it, the job of the police is to secure our Rights. offer identification There are pleanty of non-mandatory methods of proving one's identity, if one feels the urge to do so. and let others know that the people with the licenses had to provide some proof that they were somewhat competent to drive motor vehicles. We do not OWE it to the public to prove we are unlikely to endanger others before being allowed to exercise something that is our Right. "[The Individual] owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights." -- Hale vs. Hinkel, 201 US 43, 74-75 - http://laws.findlaw.com/us/201/43.html#74 Driver licensing does nothing for highway safety that laws against endangerment didn't already serve. Virtually everybody who tries, successfully gets a driver license. Those who end up taking it twice, usually falied their first attempt not because of an inability to drive safely, but rather due to confusing questions. Virtually everybody over the age of 12 CAN drive a car safely. The question is WILL they drive safely, and driver licensing CAN NOT answer that question. Read about it at: http://proffsl.110mb.com/driver_licensing.php |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
On Sep 19, 4:46 am, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message Alohacyberian wrote on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:55:26 GMT: A "proffsl" wrote in message groups.com... ?? Driver Licensing serves no purpose for highway safety that ?? laws against endangerment did not already serve, and ?? instead only serves fiscal greed. ?? A I don't agree, but, driver licensing is here to stay. Might A as well get used to it. If it were fiscal greed, it would A cost a couple hundred dollars to get a license. License A information also helps solve a lot of crimes, offer A identification and let others know that the people with the A licenses had to provide some proof that they were somewhat A competent to drive motor vehicles. KM You could probably make a case against car license plates too! At one time, you could get used to the pattern in a state. which facilitated reading quickly. It's much more complicated now in my state of MD. We have ABC123, 1AB C23, 123M456, M12345, vanity plates, private organizational plates like UMD 1234 and I don't know what else. They don't even issue new plates unless you ask for them or, sometimes, buy a new car but it's a healthy hunk of change each year for the little plastic sticker! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Yes, license plates, stickers and registrations are a much better example of fiscal greed than are driver licenses. I suppose the original poster may be sour-grapes because s/he had a license revoked and probably for good reason. Typical Ad Hominem responce. Instead of discussing the issue at hand, you'd rather discuss your suppositions about the writer. Ad Hominems are a sign of mental sloth behavior. |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
With an attitude like that, it's sure to prolong it's life. BUT, nothing is here to stay. We live in a world where everthing comes to an end. Get use to it. And, in the mean time, get use to the idea of standing up for your Rights. We are not obligated to sacrifice our Rights in order to make the police's job easire. Fact it, the job of the police is to secure our Rights. We do not OWE it to the public to prove we are unlikely to endanger others before being allowed to exercise something that is our Right. Driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT....get used to it...and while you're at it, learn the different between its and it's. Maybe spend less time driving and more time reading. |
Driver Licensing not about highway safety
Carole Allen wrote:
Driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT....get used to it...and while you're at it, learn the different between its and it's. Maybe spend less time driving and more time reading. No, its a RIGHT that has been taken away by the government. No one ever said that riding a horse was a "privilege" not a right ... saying so would have been thought ludicrous. Driving a car is EXACTLY like riding a horse. Except for one big thing: a horse by itself can actively kill people. A turned off car can't (and please, no stupid counterexamples ... I am perfectly aware that a car that is parked on a hill with no brakes and in neutral can roll down and kill somebody, etc., but a horse by itself can actively decide to stomp somebody.) Indeed, originally driving WAS a right, only later was that right taken away. Same with flying an airplane ... the Wright Brothers didn't have pilots licenses. The number one reason for the existence of government is to take away rights. Doug McDonald |
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