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Mr.Taxi February 19th, 2004 05:31 AM

African Doctors
 
It's great that Australia is helping African doctors to get the hell out of
Africa and come to Australia to work as taxi drivers.
For a start there is little chance of catching AIDS and you can make a lot
more money because your clients don't end up dead.
Thank you Australia, the lucky country!



Graham W February 19th, 2004 06:11 AM

African Doctors
 
"Mr.Taxi" wrote:

More sad sick trolling.

A Mate February 19th, 2004 09:19 AM

African Doctors
 
MASSIVE cross post!!!




"Mr.Taxi" wrote in message
...
It's great that Australia is helping African doctors to get the hell out

of
Africa and come to Australia to work as taxi drivers.
For a start there is little chance of catching AIDS and you can make a lot
more money because your clients don't end up dead.
Thank you Australia, the lucky country!





Michael Carr February 21st, 2004 02:47 PM

African Doctors
 
There are only two kinds of people in the world, AUSTRALIANS and those who
wish they were ......


"Mr.Taxi" wrote in message
...
It's great that Australia is helping African doctors to get the hell out

of
Africa and come to Australia to work as taxi drivers.
For a start there is little chance of catching AIDS and you can make a lot
more money because your clients don't end up dead.
Thank you Australia, the lucky country!





Graham W February 22nd, 2004 01:04 PM

African Doctors
 
Michael Carr wrote:
There are only two kinds of people in the world, AUSTRALIANS and
those who wish they were ......


So why does the government periodically have advertising campaigns
trying to persuade long term permanent residents such as me to take out
citizenship?

Do I not exist?
I am not an Australian.
I am certainly eligible to become one.
I see no point in paying the government money to become one.

And what does this have to to with soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans ?

Raffi Balmanoukian February 22nd, 2004 01:46 PM

African Doctors
 
in article , Graham W at
wrote on 2/22/04 9:04 AM:

Michael Carr wrote:
There are only two kinds of people in the world, AUSTRALIANS and
those who wish they were ......


So why does the government periodically have advertising campaigns
trying to persuade long term permanent residents such as me to take out
citizenship?


Because if you want the benefits of the society in which you live, take the
obligations that go with it. Especially now that Australia permits
naturalized citizens to hold dual nationalities.


Graham W February 22nd, 2004 04:15 PM

African Doctors
 
Michael Carr wrote:
There are only two kinds of people in the world, AUSTRALIANS and
those who wish they were ......


Graham W wrote:
So why does the government periodically have advertising campaigns
trying to persuade long term permanent residents such as me to take
out citizenship?


Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
Because if you want the benefits of the society in which you live,
take the obligations that go with it. Especially now that Australia
permits naturalized citizens to hold dual nationalities.


What obligations would these be?

Michael Carr claimed "there are only two kinds of people in the world,
AUSTRALIANS and those who wish they were". I am proof he is wrong.

The only difference citizenship would make for me is that the government
takes a fee off me and gives me a certificate, and they then charge me
money for a passport instead of for a visa.

I've been here since I was 5. I've seen nothing to make me attach any
great importance to reciting pseudoreligious nonsense at a ceremony and
getting a piece of paper for my effort.

I won't wake up next morning a different person, I won't pay any more or
less tax, I won't be more virtuous and my accent won't change.


I am living proof that there ARE people who are neither Australians, nor
particularly wish to be.

Whether or not you have a problem with that, whether or not it's a
morally defensible position, Michael Carr's claim is clearly incorrect.

Raffi Balmanoukian February 22nd, 2004 07:33 PM

African Doctors
 
in article , Graham W at
wrote on 2/22/04 12:15 PM:

Michael Carr wrote:
There are only two kinds of people in the world, AUSTRALIANS and
those who wish they were ......


Graham W wrote:
So why does the government periodically have advertising campaigns
trying to persuade long term permanent residents such as me to take
out citizenship?


Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
Because if you want the benefits of the society in which you live,
take the obligations that go with it. Especially now that Australia
permits naturalized citizens to hold dual nationalities.


What obligations would these be?

Michael Carr claimed "there are only two kinds of people in the world,
AUSTRALIANS and those who wish they were". I am proof he is wrong.

The only difference citizenship would make for me is that the government
takes a fee off me and gives me a certificate, and they then charge me
money for a passport instead of for a visa.

I've been here since I was 5. I've seen nothing to make me attach any
great importance to reciting pseudoreligious nonsense at a ceremony and
getting a piece of paper for my effort.


That "pseudoreligious nonsense" is your pledge to a society of which you are
a member, and theirs to you. If you don't believe in it, leave it.
Obviously Australia isn't worth your few dollars for its citizenship, so you
should leave it. It would be better off without you.


Graham February 22nd, 2004 08:37 PM

African Doctors
 

"Raffi Balmanoukian" a
wrote in message
news:BC5E7EBC.2106B%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREP LY.ns.sympatico.ca...
in article , Graham W at
wrote on 2/22/04 12:15 PM:

Michael Carr wrote:
There are only two kinds of people in the world, AUSTRALIANS and
those who wish they were ......


Graham W wrote:
So why does the government periodically have advertising campaigns
trying to persuade long term permanent residents such as me to take
out citizenship?


Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
Because if you want the benefits of the society in which you live,
take the obligations that go with it. Especially now that Australia
permits naturalized citizens to hold dual nationalities.


What obligations would these be?

Michael Carr claimed "there are only two kinds of people in the world,
AUSTRALIANS and those who wish they were". I am proof he is wrong.

The only difference citizenship would make for me is that the government
takes a fee off me and gives me a certificate, and they then charge me
money for a passport instead of for a visa.

I've been here since I was 5. I've seen nothing to make me attach any
great importance to reciting pseudoreligious nonsense at a ceremony and
getting a piece of paper for my effort.


That "pseudoreligious nonsense" is your pledge to a society of which you

are
a member, and theirs to you. If you don't believe in it, leave it.
Obviously Australia isn't worth your few dollars for its citizenship, so

you
should leave it. It would be better off without you.



this sounds so much like the arguement about Kiwis in Oz. The Kiwis seem to
dislike Australia and Aussies, but they plan never to return to NZ. I have
known quite a few Kiwis in my time..but they neve rwant to leave..or become
citizens.

They take more than they give

gra





Graham W February 23rd, 2004 07:37 AM

African Doctors
 
Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
That "pseudoreligious nonsense" is your pledge to a society of which
you are a member, and theirs to you.


That would be the pledge which no Australian citizen by birth ever has
to make?

If you don't believe in it, leave it.


Obviously Australia isn't worth your few dollars for its citizenship,
so you should leave it. It would be better off without you.


Oh dear, you're in a huff now because I don't value citizenship and
ceremonies and fancy certificates which change nothing.


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