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Trip across the USA
Hi,
We are making a trip across the States and a part of our trip is through Missouri, Kansas and Colorado. Starting at St. Louis and ending at Denver Colorado is there anything along the I 70 what we must see or avoid. Our route in general is. Starting in New York then Niagara Falls, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, Grand Canyon (South Rim and North Rim), Zion NP or Brice Canyon), LasVegas, Joshua NP, Palm Springs, Santa Barbara, along the Coast via Highway 1 to San Francisco. From San Francisco we catch a plane back home to the Netherlands. If there is any body who can give us hints what to do or not, let us know. Henk. |
Trip across the USA
About 21/2 hours each way from the south rim of the Grand Canyon is Sedona
in Arizona. If you have the time it is worth seeing. Mike "Henk" wrote in message ... Hi, We are making a trip across the States and a part of our trip is through Missouri, Kansas and Colorado. Starting at St. Louis and ending at Denver Colorado is there anything along the I 70 what we must see or avoid. Our route in general is. Starting in New York then Niagara Falls, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, Grand Canyon (South Rim and North Rim), Zion NP or Brice Canyon), LasVegas, Joshua NP, Palm Springs, Santa Barbara, along the Coast via Highway 1 to San Francisco. From San Francisco we catch a plane back home to the Netherlands. If there is any body who can give us hints what to do or not, let us know. Henk. |
Trip across the USA
Henk, that sounds like a great trip. Here are a few thoughts...
* European visitors sometimes don't realize how big the U.S. is, so I'll point out that your trip is about like driving from the Netherlands to Saudi Arabia. It's a long drive. * Don't know if you're stopping in Detroit or just passing through, but I wouldn't spend time there unless there was something specific that you wanted to see. Spend your time in some of the other cities instead. * You mentioned visiting both the North and South rims of the Grand Canyon. While it's great to visit both, on a busy trip like yours I'd suggest you just pick one rim to visit. The south rim is the one that most folks visit, and it has more facilities for visitors, but the north rim is great also. * As for the drive from St. Louis to Denver on I-70, it's been a few years since I drove that route but my memory is that it's a fairly boring drive. * From Las Vegas you might want to consider a day trip to Death Valley National Park. Hoover Dam is also quite interesting and is just a short drive from Las Vegas. * When you're driving along the California Coast on Highway 1, I'd suggest a small diversion to take the "17-Mile Drive", which is a scenic road near Monterey, California that has some of the most beautiful ocean views in California. You have to pay a small toll because the road is privately owned (by the Pebble Beach golf club), but it's well worth it. Here's the official site: http://www.pebblebeach.com/page.asp?id=1373 James |
Trip across the USA
Don't waste your time in Detroit and try visiting around Boulder + Colorado
/Manitou Springs, Co "Henk" a écrit dans le message de ... Hi, We are making a trip across the States and a part of our trip is through Missouri, Kansas and Colorado. Starting at St. Louis and ending at Denver Colorado is there anything along the I 70 what we must see or avoid. Our route in general is. Starting in New York then Niagara Falls, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, Grand Canyon (South Rim and North Rim), Zion NP or Brice Canyon), LasVegas, Joshua NP, Palm Springs, Santa Barbara, along the Coast via Highway 1 to San Francisco. From San Francisco we catch a plane back home to the Netherlands. If there is any body who can give us hints what to do or not, let us know. Henk. |
Trip across the USA
Many thanks for your info.
An alternative drive for us is to take the I 44 from St. Louis to Oklahoma City then I 40 to Amarillo, Albuquerque, Durango Grand Canyon. This route is more or less the Old US 66, if I am right about this. Is this route less dull then the route mentioned below? Henk "Henk" schreef in bericht ... Hi, We are making a trip across the States and a part of our trip is through Missouri, Kansas and Colorado. Starting at St. Louis and ending at Denver Colorado is there anything along the I 70 what we must see or avoid. Our route in general is. Starting in New York then Niagara Falls, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, Grand Canyon (South Rim and North Rim), Zion NP or Brice Canyon), LasVegas, Joshua NP, Palm Springs, Santa Barbara, along the Coast via Highway 1 to San Francisco. From San Francisco we catch a plane back home to the Netherlands. If there is any body who can give us hints what to do or not, let us know. Henk. |
Trip across the USA
wrote in message ... Henk, that sounds like a great trip. Here are a few thoughts... * European visitors sometimes don't realize how big the U.S. is, so I'll point out that your trip is about like driving from the Netherlands to Saudi Arabia. It's a long drive. Not even close, at around 850 miles on good roads its a snap in comparison to Netherlands to Jeddah. Its more like Utrecht to Florence, a trip made by many Europeans Keith |
Trip across the USA
"Henk" wrote in message ... Many thanks for your info. An alternative drive for us is to take the I 44 from St. Louis to Oklahoma City then I 40 to Amarillo, Albuquerque, Durango Grand Canyon. This route is more or less the Old US 66, if I am right about this. Is this route less dull then the route mentioned below? Yep, just off 44 in missouri is Meramec Caverns http://www.americascave.com/ Through Oklahoma you can follow a lot of the old Route 66 http://www.oklahomaroute66.com/theroad/towns.html Keith |
Trip across the USA
"Henk" writes:
Our route in general is. Starting in New York then Niagara Falls, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, Grand Canyon (South Rim and North Rim), Zion NP or Brice Canyon), LasVegas, Joshua NP, Palm Springs, Santa Barbara, along the Coast via Highway 1 to San Francisco. That is a fine plan, but I hope you have checked the price for renting a car in New York and returning it in San Francisco before fixing on it. Also, I hope you have at least a month for the trip. There are several routes from New York to Niagara Falls, and all of them have some scenic parts. I usually like to take the route via Binghamton and Corning, which was highway 17 but is being renumbered as I-86. Of you could go through the Catskill Mountains via Kingston and highway 28 to meet 17/I-86. If you're interested in glass art (paperweights, vases, etc.), you should stop at Corning to see the Museum of Glass. At Niagara Falls, the river is the border with Canada on the west. There are good views of the Falls from both sides. On the US side there is an island in the river (Goat Island), which you can drive around, but is mostly parkland. The best overall views are from the Canadian side. On either side there are attractions which let you get a closer look at the falls from a low level -- the so-called Cave of the Winds on Goat Island, and Journey Behind the Falls in Canada, and the Maid of the Mist boat trip, which you can board from either country and return to the same place. The boat is probably the best choice if you are doing only one of these. Also on the Canadian side, I highly recommend the White Water Walk, which gives you a close view of the rapids in the gorge below (north of) the falls. If you do enter Canada, don't be surprised if there's a long delay to get through customs and immigration when you return to the US. Of course the quickest route to Detroit is through Canada. Detroit is not a city I find very interesting. The suburb of Dearborn has the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village, which people speak highly of, but I have not yet visited it. See http://www.hfmgv.org. Chicago is one of the country's biggest cities with the usual range of city attractions. It's well worth visiting if you like 20th century architecture, as I do. You can even take archictural tours on foot or by boat: see http://www.architecture.org/tours.aspx. I've only visited St. Louis briefly. I enjoyed going up in the Gateway Arch, but I'm not aware of any other notable attractions there. Generally, whichever way you go between Chicago and Denver, what you you will mostly see is a lot of flattish farmland and a couple of major rivers. The amount of flat land may make the journey either memorable or boring, depending on your point of view. As soon as you get past Denver you are into mountain scenery with many beautiful places, and often much slower driving as soon as you are off the Interstates. One good route would be from Denver to Estes Park (that's the name of a town; "park" here means a formation of mountains), through Rocky Mountain National Park to Granby, then south to pick up I-70 westbound again. Get off again at highway 91 south to Leadville, then south a bit more to pick up highway 82 through Aspen to Glenwood Springs. From there continue west on I-70 again. About the time you enter Utah, the mountain forests and you are into semi-desert, with completely different kinds of scenery, also memorable. Get off I-70 at highway 128 and take it south (following the Colorado River through a small but scenic canyon) to Moab, and then visit Arches National Park. *Now* continue to the Grand Canyon; if you take highway 163 you will also pass through Monument Valley on the way. (Another misleading name; it's not so much a valley as a set of isolated high formations that you travel between. Or maybe there's a valley somewhere as well if you get off the public roads; I haven't.) At the Grand Canyon, as has been stated, the South Rim is the one that most tourists go to, but it's farther from your general route. I've only been to the South Rim, so I can't comment on the North Rim. Bryce Canyon and Zion National Parks are both well worth seeing and have scenery completely different from each other or from any of the other places mentioned so far! I'll skip now to California, where I'll just point out that highway 1 does not form a continuous route up the coast. Leaving Los Angeles it runs as far as Oxnard and then you have to take highway 101 to Santa Barbara and for some distance beyond. Then when highway 1 starts up again, the next section is not coastal, as it cuts across a point of land. You might want to stay on highway 101 as far as San Luis Obispo and then pick up highway 1. A notable stop on this next section is the "Hearst Castle", the opulent home of William Randolph Hearst. There are several different guided tours available. It's in the country near the village of San Simeon. There is a cluster of hotels tightly packed together along highway 1 a few miles away; their addresses are usually given as San Simeon or Cambria, but they aren't actually in either village. The hotels will obtain reservations for the tours if you haven't got them already. Continuing north you have the beautiful Big Sur section of the highway, and then you get to Monterey and San Francisco. I hope you get good weather on this section, because it is a magnificent scenic drive -- but there is a significant risk of fog in a narrow strip along the coast. Okay, that's enough. Have a very good trip, eh? -- Mark Brader | I passed a sign that said "you are here", Toronto | but I didn't entirely believe it. | --Michael Levine My text in this article is in the public domain. |
Trip across the USA
On May 18, 4:58*am, "Keith Willshaw" wrote:
wrote in message ... Henk, that sounds like a great trip. Here are a few thoughts... * European visitors sometimes don't realize how big the U.S. is, so I'll point out that your trip is about like driving from the Netherlands to Saudi Arabia. It's a long drive. Not even close, at around 850 miles on good roads its a snap in comparison to Netherlands to Jeddah. Its more like Utrecht to Florence, a trip made by many Europeans Keith You're kidding right? According to Mapquest, NY to SF is 2900 miles on interstate hwys. Ken |
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