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Alfred Molon[_6_] January 22nd, 2013 11:10 PM

Taiwan
 
I'll be in Taiwan over Easter for two weeks with the family and still
need to plan the itinerary (just have some vague ideas right now). Has
anybody been there?
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

SMS January 23rd, 2013 05:21 PM

Taiwan
 
On 1/22/2013 3:10 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
I'll be in Taiwan over Easter for two weeks with the family and still
need to plan the itinerary (just have some vague ideas right now). Has
anybody been there?


I've been there many times.

Some suggestions:

Take the MTR out to the northern end to Tanshui. Walk along the
waterfront. Lots of good restaurants out there. Buy some iron eggs which
they are famous for.

Go to Yanmingshan National Park. Look for the giant cows, but I've never
found them. There's a bus from Taipei that goes there if you don't have
a car.

Go over the mountains to Keelung and drive back to Taipei around the
northern coast (assuming you have a car).

The Palace Museum has a lot of the treasures that the Kuomintang took
with them when they left China.

The Shilin Night Market (on the MTR line).

Taipei Zoo, on the MTR line, go on a weekday because on the weekends it
is incredibly crowded.

Sun Yatsen memorial, Chiang Kai Shek memorial (even if you didn't like
him, it's interesting), 228 Peace Memorial Park.

Costco. No MTR, take the bus.

Can't help you south of Taipei.

Chris Blunt[_2_] January 23rd, 2013 05:52 PM

Taiwan
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:21:37 -0800, SMS
wrote:

The Shilin Night Market (on the MTR line).


Is that the market where they extract the bile from snake's gall
bladders and then skin them alive and leave them writhing around while
they die a slow death hanging from hooks on a pole?

That's one of the most vivid memories I have from my first visit to
Taiwan in the early 1980s. Should make for some interesting
photography for Alfred when he's there.

Chris

SMS January 23rd, 2013 07:19 PM

Taiwan
 
On 1/23/2013 9:52 AM, Chris Blunt wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:21:37 -0800, SMS
wrote:

The Shilin Night Market (on the MTR line).


Is that the market where they extract the bile from snake's gall
bladders and then skin them alive and leave them writhing around while
they die a slow death hanging from hooks on a pole?


I think you're referring to Snake Alley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_Alley_(Taipei) which is very
different than the Shilin Night Market
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilin_Night_Market. Snake Alley is too
touristy.

That's one of the most vivid memories I have from my first visit to
Taiwan in the early 1980s. Should make for some interesting
photography for Alfred when he's there.


Taiwan allows only Canon and Nikon cameras, so he won't be taking any
pictures.







Alfred Molon[_6_] January 23rd, 2013 09:14 PM

Taiwan
 
In article , SMS says...
Take the MTR out to the northern end to Tanshui. Walk along the
waterfront. Lots of good restaurants out there. Buy some iron eggs which
they are famous for.


Got it... it's called Danshui on Google Maps. I guess you mean the
waterfront on Huanhe road extending northwest along the river, 1km+
long?

Go to Yanmingshan National Park. Look for the giant cows, but I've never
found them. There's a bus from Taipei that goes there if you don't have
a car.

Go over the mountains to Keelung and drive back to Taipei around the
northern coast (assuming you have a car).


Is it for the scenery?

The Palace Museum has a lot of the treasures that the Kuomintang took
with them when they left China.


Photography not allowed there :-(

The Shilin Night Market (on the MTR line).


I think I've been there in 2005 (visited Taipei for a few days back
then).

Taipei Zoo, on the MTR line, go on a weekday because on the weekends it
is incredibly crowded.


Should be interesting for the kids.

Sun Yatsen memorial, Chiang Kai Shek memorial (even if you didn't like
him, it's interesting), 228 Peace Memorial Park.


Been there in 2005.

Costco. No MTR, take the bus.


This is a mall, right?

Can't help you south of Taipei.


Ok, but is there anything historical or natural sights outside Taipei?
Or was it the trip to Keelung and back?

Is it easy to rent a car in Taiwan? And is it easy to drive?
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

SMS January 23rd, 2013 10:41 PM

Taiwan
 
On 1/23/2013 1:14 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , SMS says...
Take the MTR out to the northern end to Tanshui. Walk along the
waterfront. Lots of good restaurants out there. Buy some iron eggs which
they are famous for.


Got it... it's called Danshui on Google Maps. I guess you mean the
waterfront on Huanhe road extending northwest along the river, 1km+
long?

Go to Yanmingshan National Park. Look for the giant cows, but I've never
found them. There's a bus from Taipei that goes there if you don't have
a car.

Go over the mountains to Keelung and drive back to Taipei around the
northern coast (assuming you have a car).


Is it for the scenery?

The Palace Museum has a lot of the treasures that the Kuomintang took
with them when they left China.


Photography not allowed there :-(

The Shilin Night Market (on the MTR line).


I think I've been there in 2005 (visited Taipei for a few days back
then).

Taipei Zoo, on the MTR line, go on a weekday because on the weekends it
is incredibly crowded.


Should be interesting for the kids.

Sun Yatsen memorial, Chiang Kai Shek memorial (even if you didn't like
him, it's interesting), 228 Peace Memorial Park.


Been there in 2005.

Costco. No MTR, take the bus.


This is a mall, right?


A store. Famous in the U.S. and wildly popular in Taiwan. But you have
to be a member to get in, and not much in terms of tourist appeal
(except for things like Taiwanese tea and other delicacies that I like
to buy to take home as gifts).


Can't help you south of Taipei.


Ok, but is there anything historical or natural sights outside Taipei?
Or was it the trip to Keelung and back?


It was mainly for the scenery. There was some sort of an aquarium in
Keelung but we didn't go. My Taiwanese friend is a photographer (Nikon)
and he wanted to go up to the mountains for bird photography so he
picked me up at my hotel at 4 a.m.. Then we went out to the coast, west
of Hsinchu for more photography on the beach.

Is it easy to rent a car in Taiwan? And is it easy to drive?


I would not want to drive in Taipei, and there is really no need with
the MTR, buses, and cheap taxis, but outside of the urban area it looked
fine. The mountain roads are very narrow though. I drove in Thailand,
outside of Bangkok, so Taiwan should be easy compared to that.

I really want to go further south to Taroko National Park next time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taroko_National_Park. You can get there
by train and then bus or taxi http://wikitravel.org/en/Taroko_Gorge.
Taiwan has a very good train system.

Last time I went, I was paying for the trip, and I stayed at the YMCA
hotel. Basic, but clean and inexpensive and just a few minute walk from
the main train station and two MTR lines. When I used to go for work, I
would be staying at really nice hotels like the Formosa Regent, which
wasn't that close to the MTR or train station.

I think two weeks just in Taipei is too much, you should go to a couple
of national parks if possible, but that's just like what I like to do. I
remember going into the office in Taipei on a Monday and telling my
Taiwanese colleagues that I had taken the bus up to Yamingshang. They
were amazed that a) I was able to figure out how to do this (it's just
one bus, 260, from the main train station) and b) that anyone would take
a bus anywhere, since none of them ever did.

We were in China last June, not on a tour (I hate organized tours), and
we did just fine. We took buses and trains everywhere, and only used
taxis a few times. You would have loved the section of the Great Wall we
went to for photography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinshanling.


Alfred Molon[_6_] January 23rd, 2013 11:09 PM

Taiwan
 
In article , SMS says...
You would have loved the section of the Great Wall we
went to for photography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinshanling.


I've been the
http://www.molon.de/galleries/China/Beijing/Greatwall/
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

Alfred Molon[_6_] January 23rd, 2013 11:10 PM

Taiwan
 
In article , SMS says...
Taiwan allows only Canon and Nikon cameras, so he won't be taking any
pictures.


No problem, I'll bring the Hasselblad ;-)
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

SMS January 24th, 2013 12:15 AM

Taiwan
 
On 1/23/2013 3:09 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , SMS says...
You would have loved the section of the Great Wall we
went to for photography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinshanling.


I've been the
http://www.molon.de/galleries/China/Beijing/Greatwall/


Wow, not many people I know have been there, though later last year my
daughter's friend went there at my suggestion. Even most Beijingers have
never been to that section. They just need a better restaurant there.

Maybe you were followed by the same hawker that we were.

kathy20052012 January 28th, 2013 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred Molon[_6_] (Post 1040605)
I'll be in Taiwan over Easter for two weeks with the family and still
need to plan the itinerary (just have some vague ideas right now). Has
anybody been there?
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

Enjoy the sights of Taiwan’s must-see destinations on this bus tour from Taipei. As you are comfortably seated inside a tour bus, listen to your guide’s interesting stories about the sites you pass. Explore some the region’s most important treasures including the small town of Puli, picturesque Sun Moon Lake and the old town of Lukang.



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SMS January 28th, 2013 04:40 PM

Taiwan
 
On 1/22/2013 3:10 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
I'll be in Taiwan over Easter for two weeks with the family and still
need to plan the itinerary (just have some vague ideas right now). Has
anybody been there?


One other thing, for SIM cards, the last time I was there I had to go to
one of the mobile carrier's stores to buy a SIM card because the
government had halted sales of SIM cards in convenience stores like
7-11. However I have heard that they have since revoked the ban on SIM
card sales at 7-11. You need a passport and one other form of ID to buy
a SIM card.

When I was in China last year, all four of us had phones with local SIM
cards and this enormously convenient so we did not have to worry about
getting separated or going off to do things on our own. My son used his
phone to call me from the toilet in a department store to bring him
toilet paper! Amazingly, the phones all worked fine out on the wall at
Jinshanling.



Alfred Molon[_6_] January 28th, 2013 06:21 PM

Taiwan
 
In article , SMS says...
One other thing, for SIM cards, the last time I was there I had to go to
one of the mobile carrier's stores to buy a SIM card because the
government had halted sales of SIM cards in convenience stores like
7-11. However I have heard that they have since revoked the ban on SIM
card sales at 7-11. You need a passport and one other form of ID to buy
a SIM card.

When I was in China last year, all four of us had phones with local SIM
cards and this enormously convenient so we did not have to worry about
getting separated or going off to do things on our own. My son used his
phone to call me from the toilet in a department store to bring him
toilet paper! Amazingly, the phones all worked fine out on the wall at
Jinshanling.


Getting a local SIM card is one of the first things I do when travelling
to a new country.
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

Spehro Pefhany January 29th, 2013 02:22 AM

Taiwan
 
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:40:13 -0800, the renowned SMS
wrote:

On 1/22/2013 3:10 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
I'll be in Taiwan over Easter for two weeks with the family and still
need to plan the itinerary (just have some vague ideas right now). Has
anybody been there?


One other thing, for SIM cards, the last time I was there I had to go to
one of the mobile carrier's stores to buy a SIM card because the
government had halted sales of SIM cards in convenience stores like
7-11. However I have heard that they have since revoked the ban on SIM
card sales at 7-11. You need a passport and one other form of ID to buy
a SIM card.

When I was in China last year, all four of us had phones with local SIM
cards and this enormously convenient so we did not have to worry about
getting separated or going off to do things on our own. My son used his
phone to call me from the toilet in a department store to bring him
toilet paper! Amazingly, the phones all worked fine out on the wall at
Jinshanling.


Is there any problem getting cards that work with the verfication
scheme used at, say, Starbucks? I think they only accept China Mobile
and maybe one other carrier.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Alfred Molon[_6_] January 29th, 2013 09:08 PM

Taiwan
 
In article , Spehro Pefhany
says...
Is there any problem getting cards that work with the verfication
scheme used at, say, Starbucks? I think they only accept China Mobile
and maybe one other carrier.


A mobile phone is not dependent on the infrastructure of a coffee shop.
Maybe you are confusing something.
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

SMS January 29th, 2013 11:26 PM

Taiwan
 
On 1/28/2013 6:22 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

Is there any problem getting cards that work with the verfication
scheme used at, say, Starbucks? I think they only accept China Mobile
and maybe one other carrier.


I don't know, I was using China Unicom. Are you referring to Wi-Fi or
what? I did not use any 3G data, only Wi-Fi, and only at hotels.


SMS January 29th, 2013 11:27 PM

Taiwan
 
On 1/29/2013 1:08 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Spehro Pefhany
says...
Is there any problem getting cards that work with the verfication
scheme used at, say, Starbucks? I think they only accept China Mobile
and maybe one other carrier.


A mobile phone is not dependent on the infrastructure of a coffee shop.
Maybe you are confusing something.


I think that he might be referring to the use of Wi-Fi.

One thing to be sure that you have is a VPN service for security. In
China the use of a VPN also means that you have access to Facebook,
otherwise you don't.

Spehro Pefhany January 30th, 2013 04:04 AM

Taiwan
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:27:59 -0800, the renowned SMS
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:08 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Spehro Pefhany
says...
Is there any problem getting cards that work with the verfication
scheme used at, say, Starbucks? I think they only accept China Mobile
and maybe one other carrier.


A mobile phone is not dependent on the infrastructure of a coffee shop.
Maybe you are confusing something.


No, just not spelling out the details.

I think that he might be referring to the use of Wi-Fi.


Yes, that's it. You can't log on freely as you can in North America-
you have to authenticate using a cellphone, but it has to be one with
a SIM card from one or two domestic Chinese service providers. So you
can go in there with your Android tablet or iPad or notebook but if
you don't have a China Mobile or whatever cell phone account, you're
not using their WiFi (apparently it's a government requirement).

I've had to use SMS messages for authentication in other places, but
they didn't require specific carriers.

One thing to be sure that you have is a VPN service for security. In
China the use of a VPN also means that you have access to Facebook,
otherwise you don't.


I use a VPN in local (Canada) coffee shops too- at least if I'm doing
banking or other sensitive stuff. I don't care about Facebook much,
but in the Emirates even Skype was blocked without a _good_ VPN. China
may have recently tightened theirs up to that point too.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

SMS January 31st, 2013 05:00 PM

Taiwan
 
On 1/29/2013 8:04 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:27:59 -0800, the renowned SMS
wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:08 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Spehro Pefhany
says...
Is there any problem getting cards that work with the verfication
scheme used at, say, Starbucks? I think they only accept China Mobile
and maybe one other carrier.

A mobile phone is not dependent on the infrastructure of a coffee shop.
Maybe you are confusing something.


No, just not spelling out the details.

I think that he might be referring to the use of Wi-Fi.


Yes, that's it. You can't log on freely as you can in North America-
you have to authenticate using a cellphone, but it has to be one with
a SIM card from one or two domestic Chinese service providers. So you
can go in there with your Android tablet or iPad or notebook but if
you don't have a China Mobile or whatever cell phone account, you're
not using their WiFi (apparently it's a government requirement).


We didn't hang out in coffee shops at all in China, but there was free
Wi-Fi outside the Apple store in Shanghai, and in most of our hotels.
One hotel was wired-only. I had brought along a travel router, and my
netbook has a wired port, so I was okay there.

We had four phones and four SIM cards, but only one was a smart phone. I
was hoping that the Nexus 7 would come out in time for our trip, but it
was a month late. I would have liked a 7" Wi-Fi tablet with built in GPS
(the Wi-Fi only iPads don't have a GPS, but most mid to high-end Android
Wi-Fi only tablets do have one).

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http://nordicgroup.us/internationalcalling/





Bildad November 14th, 2014 06:43 AM

I have heard of it not sure you can get to have a lot with the things there but has a National Palace Museum, Tarako National Park etc which are there to be.
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ORRELL November 24th, 2014 09:59 AM

Taroko National Park is located in Taiwan. It is one of the most visited parks of this region. This park was established by the Governor-General of Taiwan on December 12, 1937. We can enjoy a lot of adventures activities. A lot of trails are also located in this spot.

alkbra November 24th, 2014 10:45 AM

You are absolutely right ORRELL! Taroko National Park is the most visited park of Taiwan. I visited this county after my tours west coast america with my elder brother. Here I want to talk about the other places of this region. According to me Mengjia Longshan Temple, Sun Moon Lake, Alishan National Scenic Area, Cingjing Farm and Taipei Fine Arts Museum are worth visiting places of this country. Did you visit these places?

ORRELL November 26th, 2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkbra (Post 1046582)
You are absolutely right ORRELL! Taroko National Park is the most visited park of Taiwan. I visited this county after my tours west coast america with my elder brother. Here I want to talk about the other places of this region. According to me Mengjia Longshan Temple, Sun Moon Lake, Alishan National Scenic Area, Cingjing Farm and Taipei Fine Arts Museum are worth visiting places of this country. Did you visit these places?

I have been visited all these places except Taipei Fine Arts Museum. After reading its name in your post I have great wish to visit this place once in my life. I have no idea about this attraction can you tell me a complete detail about this spot?

alkbra November 27th, 2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORRELL (Post 1046593)
I have been visited all these places except Taipei Fine Arts Museum. After reading its name in your post I have great wish to visit this place once in my life. I have no idea about this attraction can you tell me a complete detail about this spot?

The Taipei Fine Arts Museum opened on 8 August 1983 first time. At night the artfully lighted museum looks like an eye-catching landmark. Often it hosted international exhibitions. I must say it is worth visiting place you should go there. For more information visit this page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_Fine_Arts_Museum
I would like to say don't waste your time and go for it.

ORRELL November 28th, 2014 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkbra (Post 1046600)
The Taipei Fine Arts Museum opened on 8 August 1983 first time. At night the artfully lighted museum looks like an eye-catching landmark. Often it hosted international exhibitions. I must say it is worth visiting place you should go there. For more information visit this page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_Fine_Arts_Museum
I would like to say don't waste your time and go for it.

alkbra, I want to see some images of this museum and its notable collection. Your shared information is very helpful for me but I am still confused about this place that's why I want to see some photos of this spot. If you have then must share with me.


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