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Restaurant Tipping in Australia
Is it customary to tip the waiter in an Australian restaurant, or is
it like Italy and France, where such tipping is rare? If tipping is customary, what percentage of the bill is the normal amount to tip. -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:55:25 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: Is it customary to tip the waiter in an Australian restaurant, or is it like Italy and France, where such tipping is rare? If tipping is customary, what percentage of the bill is the normal amount to tip. Depends. The further away you are from restaurants used by American tourists the less you are expected (by the staff) to tip. We tip for good service, not for basic service. I usually add 5% to 10%, rounded up to the nearest dollar, but only if the service warranted it. I may add more for exceptional service. By Oz standards outside Sydney and the Gold Coast, I am a generous tipper. We do not ever tip for drinks in pubs and bars, or food in fast food restaurants or self serve or smorgasbord restaurants. PS Tipping cab drivers is usually expected, but again the level is usually rounding up to the nearest dollar (or nearest five on a big fare). When I was a cabbie 10% was a good tip; and I loved picking up Americans from the airport:-) Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com Latest: Two Indian Hotels: to Sleep, Perchance... |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:31:10 +1100, Alan S wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:55:25 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: Is it customary to tip the waiter in an Australian restaurant, or is it like Italy and France, where such tipping is rare? If tipping is customary, what percentage of the bill is the normal amount to tip. Depends. The further away you are from restaurants used by American tourists the less you are expected (by the staff) to tip. We tip for good service, not for basic service. I usually add 5% to 10%, rounded up to the nearest dollar, but only if the service warranted it. I may add more for exceptional service. By Oz standards outside Sydney and the Gold Coast, I am a generous tipper. We do not ever tip for drinks in pubs and bars, or food in fast food restaurants or self serve or smorgasbord restaurants. PS Tipping cab drivers is usually expected, but again the level is usually rounding up to the nearest dollar (or nearest five on a big fare). When I was a cabbie 10% was a good tip; and I loved picking up Americans from the airport:-) Thanks very much. That's helpful information. Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com Latest: Two Indian Hotels: to Sleep, Perchance... -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
"Ken Blake" wrote in message ... Is it customary to tip the waiter in an Australian restaurant, or is it like Italy and France, where such tipping is rare? If tipping is customary, what percentage of the bill is the normal amount to tip. Tipping is a very un Australian thing to do. It indicates to the person receiving the tip that you consider them as subservient and a lesser human being than you are. We expect employers to pay a wage that supports the employee and not rely on tips to make a wage just below poverty levels. |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:05 GMT, "Why_is_everyone_so_cruel"
wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote in message ... Is it customary to tip the waiter in an Australian restaurant, or is it like Italy and France, where such tipping is rare? If tipping is customary, what percentage of the bill is the normal amount to tip. Tipping is a very un Australian thing to do. It indicates to the person receiving the tip that you consider them as subservient and a lesser human being than you are. We expect employers to pay a wage that supports the employee and not rely on tips to make a wage just below poverty levels. Thanks very much for the info. -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:05 GMT, "Why_is_everyone_so_cruel"
wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote in message .. . Is it customary to tip the waiter in an Australian restaurant, or is it like Italy and France, where such tipping is rare? If tipping is customary, what percentage of the bill is the normal amount to tip. Tipping is a very un Australian thing to do. It indicates to the person receiving the tip that you consider them as subservient and a lesser human being than you are. We expect employers to pay a wage that supports the employee and not rely on tips to make a wage just below poverty levels. Great and pompous expectations. Have you ever worked in a service industry, mate? Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com Latest: Two Indian Hotels: to Sleep, Perchance... |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
"Alan S" wrote in message ... On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:05 GMT, "Why_is_everyone_so_cruel" wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote in message . .. Is it customary to tip the waiter in an Australian restaurant, or is it like Italy and France, where such tipping is rare? If tipping is customary, what percentage of the bill is the normal amount to tip. Tipping is a very un Australian thing to do. It indicates to the person receiving the tip that you consider them as subservient and a lesser human being than you are. We expect employers to pay a wage that supports the employee and not rely on tips to make a wage just below poverty levels. Great and pompous expectations. Have you ever worked in a service industry, mate? Yes, did my "time" in pubs, restaurants and cafes. I realised very quickly that many of the employees who worked in those venues were more than happy to work for peanuts - sometimes only tips or a cupboard to sleep in. Those casual/holiday workers devalued everyone's work and the employers were only too happy to oblige by reducing wages to below poverty levels for everyone else. It is the only time I have come across an industry where employees actually force wages down by "negotiating" ridiculous wages and conditions. |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
Tipping is a very un Australian thing to do.
I haven't seen one for many years, but there used to be signs in pubs saying "Tipping is un-Australian". My guess is that the signs were orchestrated by one of the unions seeking to increases wages by discouraging tipping so employers couldn't use it as an excuse to reduce wages. Personally, as an Australian, I don't see the point of tipping -- I think we should pay for the overall product/service which in turns pays the staff who deliver it. Even when travelling overseas in cultures where tipping is the norm, it seems very inconsistent to me. Why do you tip a cab driver but not a bus driver? Why do you tip a waitress but not a flight attendant? Etc. Kerry |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
On 1/12/09 11:22 AM, in article , "freenews.iinet.net.au" wrote: Tipping is a very un Australian thing to do. I haven't seen one for many years, but there used to be signs in pubs saying "Tipping is un-Australian". My guess is that the signs were orchestrated by one of the unions seeking to increases wages by discouraging tipping so employers couldn't use it as an excuse to reduce wages. Personally, as an Australian, I don't see the point of tipping -- I think we should pay for the overall product/service which in turns pays the staff who deliver it. Even when travelling overseas in cultures where tipping is the norm, it seems very inconsistent to me. Why do you tip a cab driver but not a bus driver? Why do you tip a waitress but not a flight attendant? Etc. Kerry Actually, the answer is quite simple. Cab drivers get terrible wages and bus drivers are well paid. Servers get paid minimum wage in most instances and flight attendants are very well paid. I agree with you that all should be paid so that they don't need tips to survive, but I can't see it changing any time soon. Mind you, Alan S who is quite often on this group told me North Americans were ruining it for Australians, and I did find it to be so in some places. In the hotel in Sydney for instance when I received my meal chit, there was a line for a tip! -- Martha Canada |
Restaurant Tipping in Australia
Tipping is a minor facet of Australian life - AND in only a very few areas.
In all except top end silver service restaurants tipping is neither required nor expected. In fact it's non-existent. On taxis, almost everywhere, it's the norm to round the fare up to the next '5' or '0'. Porters are found in so few hotels (5* maybe; not always then) that they're not an issue. Occasionally a drinker will leave his/her small change after the last drink in a bar. "freenews.iinet.net.au" wrote in message ... Tipping is a very un Australian thing to do. I haven't seen one for many years, but there used to be signs in pubs saying "Tipping is un-Australian". My guess is that the signs were orchestrated by one of the unions seeking to increases wages by discouraging tipping so employers couldn't use it as an excuse to reduce wages. Personally, as an Australian, I don't see the point of tipping -- I think we should pay for the overall product/service which in turns pays the staff who deliver it. Even when travelling overseas in cultures where tipping is the norm, it seems very inconsistent to me. Why do you tip a cab driver but not a bus driver? Why do you tip a waitress but not a flight attendant? Etc. Kerry |
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