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Mr.B1ack[_2_] January 24th, 2013 03:48 AM

The World's 10 Most Dangerous Airlines
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:37:52 +0000, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:


Of 60 ranked airlines, here are the ten with the worst
safety records, including the number of hull losses since
1983, and how many fatalities they caused:


#10 SkyWest Airlines: 3 hull losses; 22 dead
#9 South African Airways: 1 hull loss; 159 dead
#8 Thai Airways International: 5 hull losses; 309 dead
#7 Turkish Airlines: 6 hull losses, 188 dead
#6 Saudia: 4 hull losses; 310 dead
#5 Korean Air: 9 hull losses; 687 dead
#4 GOL Transportes Aéreos: 1 hull loss; 154 dead
#3 Air India: 3 hull losses; 329 dead
#2 TAM Airlines: 6 hull losses; 336 dead
#1 China Airlines: 8 hull losses; 755 dead



Hmmm ... this would be more informative if it
were ranked by deaths in proportion to total
fleet size or miles flown. China lost a lot
of hulls, but Korean Air seems to have killed
a lot of people in proportion to its size.
Saudia may be even more dangerous than S.K.,
a rather small fleet but yet 310 dead.

Liberal Here January 24th, 2013 07:23 PM

The World's 10 Most Dangerous Airlines
 
On Jan 23, 10:48*pm, "Mr.B1ack" wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:37:52 +0000, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Of 60 ranked airlines, here are the ten with the worst
safety records, including the number of hull losses since
1983, and how many fatalities they caused:
#10 SkyWest Airlines: 3 hull losses; 22 dead
#9 South African Airways: 1 hull loss; 159 dead
#8 Thai Airways International: 5 hull losses; 309 dead
#7 Turkish Airlines: 6 hull losses, 188 dead
#6 Saudia: 4 hull losses; 310 dead
#5 Korean Air: 9 hull losses; 687 dead
#4 GOL Transportes Aéreos: 1 hull loss; 154 dead
#3 Air India: 3 hull losses; 329 dead
#2 TAM Airlines: 6 hull losses; 336 dead
#1 China Airlines: 8 hull losses; 755 dead


* *Hmmm ... this would be more informative if it
* *were ranked by deaths in proportion to total
* *fleet size or miles flown. China lost a lot
* *of hulls, but Korean Air seems to have killed
* *a lot of people in proportion to its size.
* *Saudia may be even more dangerous than S.K.,
* *a rather small fleet but yet 310 dead.


Miles flown is a false metric. Per takeoffs is the proper gauge.

Mr.B1ack[_2_] January 24th, 2013 09:17 PM

The World's 10 Most Dangerous Airlines
 
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:23:57 -0800, Liberal Here wrote:

On Jan 23, 10:48Â*pm, "Mr.B1ack" wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:37:52 +0000, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Of 60 ranked airlines, here are the ten with the worst safety records,
including the number of hull losses since 1983, and how many
fatalities they caused: #10 SkyWest Airlines: 3 hull losses; 22 dead
#9 South African Airways: 1 hull loss; 159 dead #8 Thai Airways
International: 5 hull losses; 309 dead #7 Turkish Airlines: 6 hull
losses, 188 dead #6 Saudia: 4 hull losses; 310 dead
#5 Korean Air: 9 hull losses; 687 dead #4 GOL Transportes Aéreos: 1
hull loss; 154 dead #3 Air India: 3 hull losses; 329 dead #2 TAM
Airlines: 6 hull losses; 336 dead #1 China Airlines: 8 hull losses;
755 dead


Â* Â*Hmmm ... this would be more informative if it were ranked by
Â* Â*deaths in proportion to total fleet size or miles flown. China
Â* Â*lost a lot of hulls, but Korean Air seems to have killed a lot of
Â* Â*people in proportion to its size. Saudia may be even more
Â* Â*dangerous than S.K., a rather small fleet but yet 310 dead.


Miles flown is a false metric. Per takeoffs is the proper gauge.


Takeoffs and landings are the most dangerous
parts of a flight, although stuff DOES happen
en-route sometimes. That Air France plane that
nosedived into the drink off Brazil a few years
ago is a good example - and if those Dreamliner
fires keep happening we may see more disasters
en-route.

Anyway, this is why statistics often doesn't
really tell you much. Korean Air had a lot of
deaths ... but likely they flew lots of
trans-pacific routes and thus racked-up vast
numbers of miles. Saudia ... as best I know
it's more "regional" (if you include europe
as geographically proximate). Less air miles,
but more take-offs.


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