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Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
"..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earths temperature over the last 100 years. R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canadas Carleton University, says that CO2 variations show little correlation with our planets climate on long, medium and even short time scales. Google: "Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better eyes with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earths climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And theyre worried about global cooling, not warming." |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:43:31 -0800 (PST), :????????
wrote: researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years All measurements show the exact opposite: the sun's TSI has been steadily decrease, not increasing. -- Nemo me impune lacessit. "Your use of the scientific method in an argument is juvenile at best and idiotic at worst." -- Larry Jones |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On Mar 7, 1:43*pm, :ПеаБраин wrote:
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed "..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years. R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” Google: *"Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming." "Sami Solanki, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany said: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures... the brighter sun and higher levels of so-called "greenhouse gases" both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature, but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.[73] Nevertheless, Solanki agrees with the scientific consensus that the marked upswing in temperatures since about 1980 is attributable to human activity." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On Mar 7, 6:08*pm, mg wrote:
On Mar 7, 1:43*pm, :ПеаБраин wrote: Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed "..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years. .................................................. .................................................. .................. R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” .................................................. .................................................. ............. *"Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming." .................................................. .................................................. ............... "Sami Solanki, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany said: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures... the brighter sun and higher levels of so-called "greenhouse gases" both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature, but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.[73] .................................................. .................................................. ...................... google: "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” About 101,000 results (0.39 seconds) "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth.” “Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again, If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than ‘global warming’ would have had" |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On Mar 7, 5:41*pm, ПЈО'Донован wrote:
On Mar 7, 6:08*pm, mg wrote: On Mar 7, 1:43*pm, :ПеаБраин wrote: Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed "..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years. .................................................. ..........................*...................... ................... R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” .................................................. ..........................*...................... .............. *"Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming." .................................................. ..........................*...................... ................ "Sami Solanki, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany said: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures... the brighter sun and higher levels of so-called "greenhouse gases" both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature, but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.[73] .................................................. ..........................*...................... ....................... google: "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” About 101,000 results (0.39 seconds) "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth.” “Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again, If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than ‘global warming’ would have had" As I said, Max Planck Institute agrees with the scientific consensus that the marked upswing in temperatures since about 1980 is attributable to human activity. In regard to R. Timothy Patterson's denial of Global Warming theory, he's part of a small minority. "In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases.[2][3][4] No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view,[5]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On Mar 7, 10:00*pm, mg wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:41*pm, ПЈО'Донован wrote: On Mar 7, 6:08*pm, mg wrote: On Mar 7, 1:43*pm, :ПеаБраин wrote: Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed "..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years. .................................................. ..........................*...................... ................... R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” .................................................. ..........................*...................... .............. *"Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming." .................................................. ..........................*...................... ................ "Sami Solanki, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany said: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures... the brighter sun and higher levels of so-called "greenhouse gases" both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature, but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.[73] .................................................. ..........................*...................... ....................... google: "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” About 101,000 results (0.39 seconds) "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth.” “Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again, If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than ‘global warming’ would have had" As I said, Max Planck Institute agrees with the scientific consensus that the marked upswing in temperatures since about 1980 is attributable to human activity. In regard to R. Timothy Patterson's denial of Global Warming theory, he's part of a small minority. "In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus You like that word, "consensus" don't you? It almost precludes any dissenting opinion, doesn't it? |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:00:02 -0800 (PST), mg wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:41*pm, ???'??????? wrote: On Mar 7, 6:08*pm, mg wrote: On Mar 7, 1:43*pm, :???????? wrote: Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed "..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years. .................................................. .........................*....................... .................. R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” .................................................. .........................*....................... ............. *"Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming." .................................................. .........................*....................... ............... "Sami Solanki, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany said: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures... the brighter sun and higher levels of so-called "greenhouse gases" both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature, but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.[73] .................................................. .........................*....................... ...................... google: "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” About 101,000 results (0.39 seconds) "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth.” “Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again, If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than ‘global warming’ would have had" As I said, Max Planck Institute agrees with the scientific consensus that the marked upswing in temperatures since about 1980 is attributable to human activity. In regard to R. Timothy Patterson's denial of Global Warming theory, he's part of a small minority. "In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases.[2][3][4] No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view,[5]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy They don't realize that when the East European weather stations were closed, there were no cold ones to replace them with. |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On 03/08/2013 04:00 AM, mg wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:41 pm, ПЈО'Донован wrote: On Mar 7, 6:08 pm, mg wrote: On Mar 7, 1:43 pm, :ПеаБраин wrote: Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed "..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years. .................................................. ..........................*...................... ................... R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” .................................................. ..........................*...................... .............. "Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming." .................................................. ..........................*...................... ................ "Sami Solanki, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany said: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures... the brighter sun and higher levels of so-called "greenhouse gases" both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature, but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.[73] .................................................. ..........................*...................... ....................... google: "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” About 101,000 results (0.39 seconds) "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth.” “Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again, If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than ‘global warming’ would have had" As I said, Max Planck Institute agrees with the scientific consensus that the marked upswing in temperatures since about 1980 is attributable to human activity. In regard to R. Timothy Patterson's denial of Global Warming theory, he's part of a small minority. "In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases.[2][3][4] No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view,[5]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy MG, don't bother replying to this guy, PJ O'D is a well- known troll who has been terrorising Usenet for years. |
Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed
On Mar 7, 10:00*pm, mg wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:41*pm, ПЈО'Донован wrote: On Mar 7, 6:08*pm, mg wrote: On Mar 7, 1:43*pm, :ПеаБраин wrote: Solar Influence On Climate Confirmed "..researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years. .................................................. .......................... *......................................... R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa- Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” .................................................. .......................... *.................................... *"Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined. And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming." .................................................. .......................... *...................................... "Sami Solanki, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany said: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures... the brighter sun and higher levels of so-called "greenhouse gases" both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature, but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.[73] .................................................. .......................... *............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ............................ google: "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.” About 101,000 results (0.39 seconds) .................................................. ............................................... "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth.” “Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again, If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than ‘global warming’ would have had" As I said, Max Planck Institute agrees with the scientific consensus that the marked upswing in temperatures since about 1980 is attributable to human activity. In regard to R. Timothy Patterson's denial of Global Warming theory, he's part of a small minority. .................................................. .................................................. ........................ "In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases.[2][3][4] No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view,[5]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy Natural CO2 emissions completely swamp manmade CO2 emissions in our atmosphere Its something we've always know that the manmade CO2 emissions are completely dwarfed by the Natural CO2 emissions from the ecosystems. But for the lurkers that dont know here is a refresher. Total amount of CO2 in our atmosphere is 0.039%, that percentage right so total amount is 0.00039 out of 100. From this total amount 97% comes from the ecosystems (sea, land and animals/plants) thats 97%. From this total amount 3% is manmade CO2 from fossil fuel emissions. The IPCC through their parametric computer generated projections are telling us that the 3% will destroy the Earth unless we are all committed to financial slavery through the carbon tax to reduce our CO2 emissions. Depending on what phase our sun is in and our position on our eliptical orbit around the sun and whether we are having a el nino or a la nina. The ecosystems have the potential to throw up even more CO2 in our atmopshere which can eclipse any manmade CO2 emissions. Any punter seeing this evidence will know straight away that AGW is a lie and the carbon tax is a scam. Proffessor Murry Salby is Chair of Climate Science at Macquarie University and he has been researching CO2 in our atmosphere. He has come to the conclusions that, It’s not just that man-made emissions don’t control the climate, they don’t even control global CO2 levels. There goes another “fingerprint”… Judging by the speech Murry Salby gave at the Sydney Institute, there’s a blockbuster paper coming soon. Listen to the speech: “Global Emission of Carbon Dioxide: The Contribution from Natural Sources” Professor Murry Salby is Chair of Climate Science at Macquarie University. He’s been a visiting professorships at Paris, Stockholm, Jerusalem, and Kyoto, and he’s spent time at the Bureau of Meterology in Australia. Over the last two years he has been looking at C12 and C13 ratios and CO2 levels around the world, and has come to the conclusion that man- made emissions have only a small effect on global CO2 levels. It’s not just that man-made emissions don’t control the climate, they don’t even control global CO2 levels. The higher levels of CO2 in recent decades appear to be mostly due to natural sources. He presented this research at the IUGG conference in Melbourne recently, causing great discussion and shocking a few people. Word reached the Sydney Institute, which rushed to arrange for him to speak, given the importance of this work in the current Australian political climate. The ratio of C13 to C12 (two isotopes of carbon) in our atmosphere has been declining, which is usually viewed as a signature of man-made CO2 emissions. C12 makes up 99% of carbon in the atmosphere (nearly all atmospheric carbon is in the form of CO2). C13 is much rarer — about 1%. Plants don’t like the rarer C13 type as much; photosynthesis works best on the C12 -type -of-CO2 and not the C13-type when absorbing CO2 from the air. Prof Salby points out that while fossil fuels are richer in C12 than the atmosphere, so too is plant life on Earth, and there isn’t a lot of difference (just 2.6%) in the ratios of C13 to C12 in plants versus fossil fuels. (Fossil fuels are, after all, made in theory from plants, so it’s not surprising that it’s hard to tell their “signatures” apart). So if the C13 to C12 ratio is falling (as more C12 rich carbon is put into the air by burning fossil fuels) then we can’t know if it’s due to man-made CO2 or natural CO2 from plants. Essentially we can measure man-made emissions reasonably well, but we can’t measure the natural emissions and sequestrations of CO2 at all precisely — the error bars are huge. Humans emits 5Gt or so per annum, but the oceans emit about 90Gt and the land-plants about 60Gt, for a total of maybe 150Gt. Many scientists have assumed that the net flows of carbon to and from natural sinks and sources of CO2 cancel each other out, but there is no real data to confirm this and it’s just a convenient assumption. The problem is that even small fractional changes in natural emissions or sequestrations swamp the human emissions Read the rest here |
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