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How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars
missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a5980?hl=en&q= http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...7102dbee929?q= |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
On Jul 30, 5:19�pm, giveitawhirl2008
wrote: Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/.... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6.... its a great way to raise at least some of the needed funds |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
On Jul 30, 5:56*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Jul 30, 5:19 pm, giveitawhirl2008 wrote: Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6... its a great way to raise at least some of the needed funds- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, the Lotto conceept and the seat-selling concept could raise some of the needed funds. But the national drawing proposal is not designed to raise the funds directly; the gov't still pays for everything, except what a millionaire may be paying for his or her seat! But the winner of the national drawing does not have to pay a cent to enter the drawing! That is intended to raise public interest in and support for the program, because some Regular Guy or Gal gets to go to another world! Not just once, but every once in a while, on an ongoing basis! The idea is that many members of the public might be willling to petition Congress (or the British or another European parliament), or otherwise join in to support this, if they realize there is a chance they themselves could go! It costs them nothing to support the effort to sway Congress. If the program is established, it costs them nothing to enter the lottery. And yet, a few of these who paid nothing but attention and interest, suddenly find themselves with a ticket to Titan! Or Ganymede! Or wherever! (Including Mars and Lunar excursions, of course.) |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
giveitawhirl2008 wrote:
Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a5980?hl=en&q= http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...7102dbee929?q= How many people would actually want to go once they realised it involved years spent without enough room to swing a cat? I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed. Sylvia. |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
On Jul 30, 2:19*pm, giveitawhirl2008
wrote: Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/.... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6.... Offer those more affordable one-way tickets to ride, whereas the terminally ill or those on death row or doing consecutive life terms but otherwise wealthy enough (like Ponzi Madoff and a number of politicians) should be given that opportunity of going one-way to the sorts of destinations that would otherwise be too spendy, demanding of too much R&D time and resource consuming or just matter of fact downright technically impossible within whatever we currently know. At least that way some of those folks (dead or alive) will have managed to contributed to our knowledge, and there's always a remote chance that a few might actually make it back, but no great surprise or loss for those which don't. Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
On Aug 2, 5:08*am, Sylvia Else wrote:
giveitawhirl2008 wrote: Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6... How many people would actually want to go once they realised it involved * years spent without enough room to swing a cat? I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed. Sylvia. Start off with giving the most paraplegic or physically dysfunctionals a shot at it, because they obviously can't "swing a cat" as is. ~ BG |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
On Aug 2, 8:08*am, Sylvia Else wrote:
giveitawhirl2008 wrote: Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6... How many people would actually want to go once they realised it involved * years spent without enough room to swing a cat? I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed. Sylvia.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - (Also responding to BradGuth, on swinging cats, etc. - Schrodinger didn't like cats, either, did he?) :-) Sylvia Else wrote: " I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed." That's one my most key points; the idea is to develop a FAST system. It might be fission, fusion, antimatter, or whatever. The idea to me is to have CONGRESS MANDATE acceleration of 1G and cruising speed of 1 million mph. You reach 1MMPH in like 14 hours, + or -, at 1G ; approx. 20 mph/sec/ sec - you go 21 mph. or 32 ft/sec, FASTER, EACH SECOND, at 1G. Since 1G is what you are experiencing right now (the earth's crust is pushing up against you at 1G, while the earth's MASS wants you to move toward its center; walk into an empty elevator shaft and the earth's mass wins - until you hit bottom, at which point the ground is winning the struggle again) then it will be a comfortable ride. So, you reach cruising speed of 1 MILLION MPH in well less than one day. Very roughly speaking, Jupiter and its orbiting wonders are a half billion miles away; Saturn and ITS worlds are a billion miles away. [Really, less than that.] That's 500 hours-ish to Jupiter and 1000 hours-ish to Saturn. Again, roughly, it's THREE WEEKS to Jupiter and SIX WEEKS to Saturn! (Each way.) No need for prisoners or other doomed people to accept this trip! Anyone willing to go on a 'round the world curise has enough time to visit these awesome worlds! As to cats and accomodations: With a poweful enough propulsion system, like the Orion Project type and others, accomodations could be quite nice! Maybe even arificial G, as on the rotating crew habitat on the "Discovery" spacecraft in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey:" http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/centrifuge10.jpg http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...ca31c?hl=en&q= |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
On Aug 3, 8:46*pm, giveitawhirl2008
wrote: On Aug 2, 8:08*am, Sylvia Else wrote: giveitawhirl2008 wrote: Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6... How many people would actually want to go once they realised it involved * years spent without enough room to swing a cat? I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed. Sylvia.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - (Also responding to BradGuth, on swinging cats, etc. - Schrodinger didn't like cats, either, did he?) :-) Sylvia Else wrote: " I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed." That's one my most key points; the idea is to develop a FAST system. It might be fission, fusion, antimatter, or whatever. The idea to me is to have CONGRESS MANDATE acceleration of 1G and cruising speed of 1 million mph. You reach 1MMPH in like 14 hours, + or -, at 1G ; approx. 20 mph/sec/ sec - you go 21 mph. or 32 ft/sec, FASTER, EACH SECOND, at 1G. Since 1G is what you are experiencing right now (the earth's crust is pushing up against you at 1G, while the earth's MASS wants you to move toward its center; walk into an empty elevator shaft and the earth's mass wins - until you hit bottom, at which point the ground is winning the struggle again) then it will be a comfortable ride. So, you reach cruising speed of 1 MILLION MPH in well less than one day. Very roughly speaking, Jupiter and its orbiting wonders are a half billion miles away; Saturn and ITS worlds are a billion miles away. [Really, less than that.] That's 500 hours-ish to Jupiter and 1000 hours-ish to Saturn. Again, roughly, it's THREE WEEKS to Jupiter and SIX WEEKS to Saturn! (Each way.) No need for prisoners or other doomed people to accept this trip! Anyone willing to go on a 'round the world curise has enough time to visit these awesome worlds! As to cats and accomodations: With a poweful enough propulsion system, like the Orion Project type and others, accomodations could be quite nice! Maybe even arificial G, as on the rotating crew habitat on the "Discovery" spacecraft in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey:" http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/centrifuge10.jpg http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...ad/thread/...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - first link no workie; trying this: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...D2%26hl%3De n |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
On Aug 3, 8:48*pm, giveitawhirl2008
wrote: On Aug 3, 8:46*pm, giveitawhirl2008 wrote: On Aug 2, 8:08*am, Sylvia Else wrote: giveitawhirl2008 wrote: Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal that might let YOU get to go for FREE! First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its "death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice. But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings! All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong! So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance! This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government fund the human solar system exploration program! http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/... http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6... How many people would actually want to go once they realised it involved * years spent without enough room to swing a cat? I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed. Sylvia.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - (Also responding to BradGuth, on swinging cats, etc. - Schrodinger didn't like cats, either, did he?) :-) Sylvia Else wrote: " I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed." That's one my most key points; the idea is to develop a FAST system. It might be fission, fusion, antimatter, or whatever. The idea to me is to have CONGRESS MANDATE acceleration of 1G and cruising speed of 1 million mph. You reach 1MMPH in like 14 hours, + or -, at 1G ; approx. 20 mph/sec/ sec - you go 21 mph. or 32 ft/sec, FASTER, EACH SECOND, at 1G. Since 1G is what you are experiencing right now (the earth's crust is pushing up against you at 1G, while the earth's MASS wants you to move toward its center; walk into an empty elevator shaft and the earth's mass wins - until you hit bottom, at which point the ground is winning the struggle again) then it will be a comfortable ride. So, you reach cruising speed of 1 MILLION MPH in well less than one day. Very roughly speaking, Jupiter and its orbiting wonders are a half billion miles away; Saturn and ITS worlds are a billion miles away. [Really, less than that.] That's 500 hours-ish to Jupiter and 1000 hours-ish to Saturn. Again, roughly, it's THREE WEEKS to Jupiter and SIX WEEKS to Saturn! (Each way.) No need for prisoners or other doomed people to accept this trip! Anyone willing to go on a 'round the world curise has enough time to visit these awesome worlds! As to cats and accomodations: With a poweful enough propulsion system, like the Orion Project type and others, accomodations could be quite nice! Maybe even arificial G, as on the rotating crew habitat on the "Discovery" spacecraft in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey:" http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/centrifuge10.jpg http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/...Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - first link no workie; trying this: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu....com/rock....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That worked. click on see full image. rest of site looks interesting also |
How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!
giveitawhirl2008 wrote:
On Aug 2, 8:08 am, Sylvia Else wrote: I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed. Sylvia.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - (Also responding to BradGuth, on swinging cats, etc. - Schrodinger didn't like cats, either, did he?) :-) Sylvia Else wrote: " I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed." That's one my most key points; the idea is to develop a FAST system. It might be fission, fusion, antimatter, or whatever. The idea to me is to have CONGRESS MANDATE acceleration of 1G and cruising speed of 1 million mph. Once you've reached the point where propellant mass is not significant compared with payload, you might as well run a constant acceleration all the way (including during turnover), even if that's only, say, 0.1g. This also reduces the power requirements, resulting in a lighter power generator. Sylvia. |
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