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Nick Fisher January 11th, 2007 12:06 PM

Moving to Australia
 
OK, the decision is made (at least in principle): we are emigrating
from the UK to Australia.

We're pretty sure that either Sydney or Melbourne is going to be the
right choice for us, but although I've spend a bit of time in the
former, I don't know Melbourne at all.

It would be really great if people reading this NG could post some
links to information sites, particularly about Melbourne, profiles of
its different neighborhoods, the schools situation etc.

Thanks !

Nick


Big Kev January 11th, 2007 09:17 PM

Moving to Australia
 
Hi Nick.
Maybe this is a start for you..

At least, It'll keep you busy for a little while ... :)

http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info.cfm?top=23&pg=966

http://www.liveinvictoria.vic.gov.au...conten tId=-1

http://www.visitvictoria.com/

http://www.centralequity.com.au/abou...ni-private.asp


Good Luck....

Have a great day today, and an even better day tomorrow.
Regards,
BIG KEV - Melbourne Australia


"Nick Fisher" wrote in message
oups.com...
OK, the decision is made (at least in principle): we are emigrating
from the UK to Australia.

We're pretty sure that either Sydney or Melbourne is going to be the
right choice for us, but although I've spend a bit of time in the
former, I don't know Melbourne at all.

It would be really great if people reading this NG could post some
links to information sites, particularly about Melbourne, profiles of
its different neighborhoods, the schools situation etc.

Thanks !

Nick




Ross January 11th, 2007 10:45 PM

Moving to Australia
 
If your computer system will allow it download Google Earth and have a look
at the capital cities from the air.

You may find the images "revealing" as to the way the cities sprawl.

I live in Brisbane (Queensland) but have no bias as to suitability of one
city over another.

Sydney was the first settlement and development over 200 years shows little
or no real planning.

You may find Adelaide (South Australia) has an interesting city centre. It
is surrounded by parks. It was a planned and laid out settlement.

Melbourne was settled and planned as was Canberra. City centre planning is
quite evident.

Perth (Western Aust) and Brisbane (Queensland) were "hurried" settlements.
Planning has been a bit of this and a bit of that. That is not to say they
are unattractive in their own way.

I keep referring to "settlement" because nowhere starts out as a city. e.g.
London.


Ross

"Nick Fisher" wrote in message
oups.com...
OK, the decision is made (at least in principle): we are emigrating
from the UK to Australia.

We're pretty sure that either Sydney or Melbourne is going to be the
right choice for us, but although I've spend a bit of time in the
former, I don't know Melbourne at all.

It would be really great if people reading this NG could post some
links to information sites, particularly about Melbourne, profiles of
its different neighborhoods, the schools situation etc.

Thanks !

Nick




gerrit January 12th, 2007 03:27 AM

Moving to Australia
 

"Ross" wrote in message
...

I keep referring to "settlement" because nowhere starts out as a city.

e.g.
London.


What!?
London was never one or two huts on the bank of the river?
Some quotes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_London

"...despite intensive excavations, archaeologists have found no evidence of
a prehistoric major settlement in the area.There have been scattered
prehistoric finds, evidence of farming, burial and traces of habitation, but
nothing more substantial. It is now considered unlikely that a pre-Roman
city existed, but as some of the Roman city remains unexcavated, it is still
just possible that some settlement may yet be discovered." - see the word
"settlement"?

"Archaeologists now believe that London was founded as a civilian settlement
by 50 AD."

Gerrit - Perth





Peter Webb January 12th, 2007 08:36 AM

Moving to Australia
 

"Nick Fisher" wrote in message
oups.com...
OK, the decision is made (at least in principle): we are emigrating
from the UK to Australia.

We're pretty sure that either Sydney or Melbourne is going to be the
right choice for us, but although I've spend a bit of time in the
former, I don't know Melbourne at all.


If you have never been there, why are you considering Melbourne at all?

If you took away Sydney's harbour, its beaches, its interesting topography,
its climate, the Harbour bridge and Opera House, and 30% of its business
opportunity you know what you would have? Melbourne.

I know both cities well, and I can't imagine why anybody would pick
Melbourne.

Unless you have a job that really requires you to be in a big city,
Melbourne would be well down on my list.




John H January 12th, 2007 09:38 AM

Moving to Australia
 
AND dont forget the very high cost of housing and living in Sydney
NOT so high in Melbourne,
Less in other capital cities except maybe Perth is starting to get high
housing costs due to demand.
Unless you really have to, give Sydney a miss as it is like London but not
as good as transport system.

What type of work are you involved in would perhaps help as to where best
top go to get a job easier.
John H

"Peter Webb" wrote in message
u...

"Nick Fisher" wrote in message
oups.com...
OK, the decision is made (at least in principle): we are emigrating
from the UK to Australia.

We're pretty sure that either Sydney or Melbourne is going to be the
right choice for us, but although I've spend a bit of time in the
former, I don't know Melbourne at all.


If you have never been there, why are you considering Melbourne at all?

If you took away Sydney's harbour, its beaches, its interesting
topography, its climate, the Harbour bridge and Opera House, and 30% of
its business opportunity you know what you would have? Melbourne.

I know both cities well, and I can't imagine why anybody would pick
Melbourne.

Unless you have a job that really requires you to be in a big city,
Melbourne would be well down on my list.






Nick Fisher January 12th, 2007 01:39 PM

Moving to Australia
 
What type of work are you involved in would perhaps help as to where best
top go to get a job easier.
John H


Guys,

Thanks for all the helpful replies. I am hoping to gain a skilled visa
based on my background running IT projects. Most of my experience has
been in financial services but over the years I have also worked in
travel & construction (always in IT).

This is a bit of a long-range plan as we have a middle child who still
has a couple of years schooling to run (just about to turn 16) so we
won't be wanting to move until 2009 at the earliest.

It would be helpful to know what the job market is like in Sydney,
Melbourne, Adelaide though...

Cheers

Nick


Peter Webb January 12th, 2007 04:07 PM

Moving to Australia
 

"Nick Fisher" wrote in message
oups.com...
What type of work are you involved in would perhaps help as to where best
top go to get a job easier.
John H


Guys,

Thanks for all the helpful replies. I am hoping to gain a skilled visa
based on my background running IT projects. Most of my experience has
been in financial services but over the years I have also worked in
travel & construction (always in IT).


There are about twice as many banks headquartered in Sydney compared to
Melbourne. Of the 6 biggest banks, four are Sydney based (Westpac,
Commonwealth, St George, Macquarie). Most Asian banks run their Australian
operations through Sydney. Its also home to the ASX and most of the
regulators.

If you are an IT Project Manager, you will find more opportunities in
Sydney.


This is a bit of a long-range plan as we have a middle child who still
has a couple of years schooling to run (just about to turn 16) so we
won't be wanting to move until 2009 at the earliest.

It would be helpful to know what the job market is like in Sydney,
Melbourne, Adelaide though...


I know the IT industry very well, and know all capital cities in Australia
at least reasonably well from this perspective.

What size of projects do you PM? Are you looking for contract work or a job?
Any special technical knowledge or skills you want to leverage?





AIEC January 13th, 2007 03:24 PM

Moving to Australia
 
Hello there,

I am a bit biased toward Melbourne.....more European like versus Sydney
west coast US....Melbourne is brilliant for resturants, cafes, bars,
night clubs open all night (liberal licensing laws) and rich cultural
life related to community not money....

Check this link out for work http://jobsearch.gov.au/joboutlook/

Also on our site we have numerous links to all states see
http://www.aiec.biz

Cheers Andrew




Nick Fisher wrote:
What type of work are you involved in would perhaps help as to where best
top go to get a job easier.
John H


Guys,

Thanks for all the helpful replies. I am hoping to gain a skilled visa
based on my background running IT projects. Most of my experience has
been in financial services but over the years I have also worked in
travel & construction (always in IT).

This is a bit of a long-range plan as we have a middle child who still
has a couple of years schooling to run (just about to turn 16) so we
won't be wanting to move until 2009 at the earliest.

It would be helpful to know what the job market is like in Sydney,
Melbourne, Adelaide though...

Cheers

Nick



Peter Webb January 14th, 2007 06:33 AM

Moving to Australia
 

"AIEC" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello there,

I am a bit biased toward Melbourne.....more European like versus Sydney
west coast US....Melbourne is brilliant for resturants, cafes, bars,
night clubs open all night (liberal licensing laws)


All that is true. I might also point out that they appear to have three
teenaged children, some of whom might also be coming. I am also in that age
group, and whilst Melbourne is a great place for a business lunch, the rest
is largely of academic interest to me. Sydeny has more than enough
restuarants, bars, cafes and nightclubs for my immediate needs.


and rich cultural
life related to community not money....


What ********. Like Toorak society is so much more open than Double Bay
society?

What exactly do you mean?


Check this link out for work http://jobsearch.gov.au/joboutlook/

Also on our site we have numerous links to all states see
http://www.aiec.biz

Cheers Andrew


By world standards, Melbourne is an absolutely first class place to live. By
Australian standards, I would rate it third behind Sydney and Brisbane.
(Brisbane really only gets the gong for me for its weather; if you don't
like it hot almost all year then Melbourne would be better.)





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