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Terry Pinnell[_3_] February 1st, 2011 10:06 AM

California: Southern, Central, Northern?
 
I'm trying to download some 1:24000 topo maps for use in my mapping
program, Memory-Map. But their digital map shop interface is a masterpiece
of poor design. One (relatively minor) problem is that it splits
California into three separate maps: Southern, Central and Northern. But
doesn't provide any outline maps or definitions.

Are these formally recognised areas? If so, could someone point me to a
map clearly showing the boundaries please?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Don Kirkman[_2_] February 1st, 2011 06:56 PM

California: Southern, Central, Northern?
 
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:06:34 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

I'm trying to download some 1:24000 topo maps for use in my mapping
program, Memory-Map. But their digital map shop interface is a masterpiece
of poor design. One (relatively minor) problem is that it splits
California into three separate maps: Southern, Central and Northern. But
doesn't provide any outline maps or definitions.


Are these formally recognised areas? If so, could someone point me to a
map clearly showing the boundaries please?


Terry, I was born in California and have lived most of my life here,
and I regret to inform you that there is no standardized approach.
Some mapmakers seem to draw arbitrary lines, sometimes straight
geometrics and other times roughly following natural lines like
mountains. FWIW some of our major metropolitan areas are likewise
divided (albeit in the interest of providing greater detail).

You might get a rough idea of the divisions if you compare your
Memory-Map with some of the Google maps (which I generally find very
useful).
--
Don Kirkman


Steve Cain February 1st, 2011 07:07 PM

California: Southern, Central, Northern?
 
?Central = north of LA and south of the Bay Area

"Don Kirkman" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:06:34 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

I'm trying to download some 1:24000 topo maps for use in my mapping
program, Memory-Map. But their digital map shop interface is a masterpiece
of poor design. One (relatively minor) problem is that it splits
California into three separate maps: Southern, Central and Northern. But
doesn't provide any outline maps or definitions.


Are these formally recognised areas? If so, could someone point me to a
map clearly showing the boundaries please?


Terry, I was born in California and have lived most of my life here,
and I regret to inform you that there is no standardized approach.
Some mapmakers seem to draw arbitrary lines, sometimes straight
geometrics and other times roughly following natural lines like
mountains. FWIW some of our major metropolitan areas are likewise
divided (albeit in the interest of providing greater detail).

You might get a rough idea of the divisions if you compare your
Memory-Map with some of the Google maps (which I generally find very
useful).
--
Don Kirkman




David Hatunen February 1st, 2011 10:34 PM

California: Southern, Central, Northern?
 
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:06:34 +0000, Terry Pinnell wrote:

I'm trying to download some 1:24000 topo maps for use in my mapping
program, Memory-Map. But their digital map shop interface is a
masterpiece of poor design. One (relatively minor) problem is that it
splits California into three separate maps: Southern, Central and
Northern. But doesn't provide any outline maps or definitions.

Are these formally recognised areas? If so, could someone point me to a
map clearly showing the boundaries please?


I'm pretty sure that's the USGS breakdown for the purposes of the index
maps that show the topo sheets available. These index maps can be bedsheet
sized for the large western states, so a breakdown is almost a necessity.

--
Dave Hatunen, Tucson, Arizona, out where the cacti grow

Terry Pinnell[_3_] February 2nd, 2011 10:11 AM

California: Southern, Central, Northern?
 
David Hatunen wrote:

On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:06:34 +0000, Terry Pinnell wrote:

I'm trying to download some 1:24000 topo maps for use in my mapping
program, Memory-Map. But their digital map shop interface is a
masterpiece of poor design. One (relatively minor) problem is that it
splits California into three separate maps: Southern, Central and
Northern. But doesn't provide any outline maps or definitions.

Are these formally recognised areas? If so, could someone point me to a
map clearly showing the boundaries please?


I'm pretty sure that's the USGS breakdown for the purposes of the index
maps that show the topo sheets available. These index maps can be bedsheet
sized for the large western states, so a breakdown is almost a necessity.


Thanks all. I persuaded Memory-Map support to prepare a set of routes
outlining the respective sections. In case you're curious, I've shown
these in this screenshot. As you surmised, Don, it looks an arbitrary
choice, not an 'official' one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4019461/Cali...Boundaries.jpg

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

PeterL February 4th, 2011 01:43 AM

California: Southern, Central, Northern?
 
On Feb 1, 2:06*am, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I'm trying to download some 1:24000 topo maps for use in my mapping
program, Memory-Map. But their digital map shop interface is a masterpiece
of poor design. One (relatively minor) problem is that it splits
California into *three separate maps: Southern, Central and Northern. But
doesn't provide any outline maps or definitions.

Are these formally recognised areas? If so, could someone point me to a
map clearly showing the boundaries please?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK



There is an official line separating northern and southern
California. But I don't know of one that separates out central
California.


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