SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram


Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!!

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

"Oelewapper" wrote in
:

Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC
radio:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram

Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!!

Actually, quite credible since all of the US has now backed out of the
WMD scenario and as much as admits it was a hoax (except for The and
Pan).

--

"I'm the master of low expectations."

GWB, aboard Air Force One, 04Jun2003

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that for a
living but are not supposed to get caught!

Myc

"Oelewapper" wrote in message
...
Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram


Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!!

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBCRadio)
 

Oelewapper wrote:
Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram
Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!!

Well, there is nothing that is terribly new in that 20 minute broadcast. Just
confirms suspicions that
1- the intelligence knew there was no international threath
2- ministers and Bliar made sure they had deniability.

I think was was more telling was teh former speaker (his name espaces me) who
admitted in parliament yesterday that he knew about it and had personally told
Bliar prior to resigning his post.

Mr Bliar may claim his aides didn't tell him. But he can't deny that he wasn't
told by others, he can't deny he wasn't told by other world leaders, he can't
deny that he wasn't told by Blix and El Baradei that none of the so called
intelligence they were given panned out.

And all this happened before the illegal invasion began.

Both Bliar and Bush deserve to be tried for war crimes. Their invasion of Iraq
was just as legal as Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, or Argentina's invasion of the
Falklands. And you should include the leaders of spain and australia in that
war crime tribunal. They are personally responsible for more deaths than those
who perished on 9-11, especially outside the USA since these leaders did not
have any popular support for their crime.

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

"Oelewapper" wrote in message
...
Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram


Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!!


But what did he prepare for dinner?

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

In rec.food.cooking Mycroft wrote:
Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that for a
living but are not supposed to get caught!

It all stems from the fact that when honest politicians tell the truth, they get
voted out of office. The truth sometimes hurts. Jimmy Carter can attest to what
happens when you run a truthful political campaign.

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:07:47 +0100, "Oelewapper"
wrote:

Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram


Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!!

Finally listened to it. American interviewers could take a large
lesson in how to aggressively interview government officials. So could
our government officials take a lesson in being more open.

Or maybe it's just the BBC English that impresses Americans....;-)

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

wrote in message ...
In rec.food.cooking Mycroft wrote:
Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that
for a
living but are not supposed to get caught!

It all stems from the fact that when honest politicians tell the truth,
they get
voted out of office. The truth sometimes hurts. Jimmy Carter can attest to
what
happens when you run a truthful political campaign.

You mean the truth according to Jimmy Carter? Putting aside the subjective
nature of "truth", you are wrong that he lost because of his campaign. He
lost because he was a terrible leader and inept to boot. History will not
judge his presidency kindly.

Jarg

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBCRadio)
 

SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
 

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 19:00:51 +0000, Jarg wrote:

wrote in message ...
In rec.food.cooking Mycroft wrote:
Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that
for a
living but are not supposed to get caught!

It all stems from the fact that when honest politicians tell the truth,
they get
voted out of office. The truth sometimes hurts. Jimmy Carter can attest to
what
happens when you run a truthful political campaign.

You mean the truth according to Jimmy Carter? Putting aside the subjective
nature of "truth", you are wrong that he lost because of his campaign. He
lost because he was a terrible leader and inept to boot. History will not
judge his presidency kindly.

He mostly lost because of the deep recession that putting inflation under
control required.