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[email protected] November 2nd, 2006 09:29 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?
Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ? Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview? what we should know about additional charges? Is
some lines better for "young" people? ( beside disney's ship )? What
about shore excursions? Have You tried something? What can You
recomend? Is it better to organize our time by ourselves or buy some
excursions? We would love to hear everything what You know, every
suggestion, specialy from people who tried one of those cruises.
It's our first time and we would like to know everything before we book
the cruise
Thank You soooooo much

Eve


Ed[_5_] November 2nd, 2006 09:36 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 


Personally, we prefer the Celebrity cruises.... as far as the ships go.
On the other hand, we have taken a Celebrity cruise similar to the route
in your number 3 example, and having done that, I tend to think that the
stops on your number 2 example look more interesting.



Ed


Mark[_5_] November 2nd, 2006 09:45 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

All of those are good. Depending on your budget, I'd get a balcony or
oceanview if you can. Nothing like having coffee or a nightcap while
watching the ocean go by. For me 10 nights is too long and this is after 8
cruises. It sure is fun but the richness and cost get to you after a little
bit. Lots of people like longer but that's just my opinion.

Regardless of the ports, for the most part you can always find something to
do. Snorkeling on excursions can get expensive so we usually pick beaches
with snorkeling available, hang out for a while, and then hit town for some
shopping.

Look at port times also, even though there may be a lot of ports on an
itinerary, the time in ports may limit your options.

Personally I hate sea days, there's lots you can find to do on the ship but
I prefer to check out the local culture and stop for a beer here and there
while walking about. A lot of the same stuff is available on the ship on
port days so you don't have to get off if you don't want to.

If you think you'll like good full port days then also check out Adventure
of the Seas out of San Juan or Crown princess. If you have to fly it's about
the same price as flying to Miami. Make sure you check out message boards
like www.cruisecritic.com and www.cruisemates.com for reviews and stuff
also. It'll make your head spin reading all that stuff but once you decide
what you really want to do then it'll be easy to narrow it down to the
cruise that fits your taste.






wrote in message
oups.com...
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?
Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ? Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview? what we should know about additional charges? Is
some lines better for "young" people? ( beside disney's ship )? What
about shore excursions? Have You tried something? What can You
recomend? Is it better to organize our time by ourselves or buy some
excursions? We would love to hear everything what You know, every
suggestion, specialy from people who tried one of those cruises.
It's our first time and we would like to know everything before we book
the cruise
Thank You soooooo much

Eve




Dick G[_3_] November 2nd, 2006 10:24 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
wrote in message
oups.com...
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??


Is it better to take 7 nights?


If you have never cruised before, I'd do seven nights to be sure you are not
miserable for ten.

Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ?


Royal Caribbean owns both lines, but there is a big difference. Just as
Carnival has the "fun ships", Royal Caribbean is the more active ship, with
fun and games at the pool, and certainly easier to get bar service.

And although I haven't been on either line in over a decade, being that I am
an oldtimer who prefers the laid back ambience of Holland America, back in
the day Celebrity food was far superior to RCL.

Is it really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little
bit
more for oceanview?


It depends. After 20 cruises I like the outside, but since it is your
honeymoon, you may either spend or not spend a lot of quality time in your
cabin. Decide how much actual physical space you need.

what we should know about additional charges?


Just about everything is extra. Be prepared.

Have a wonderful life, and spend your honeymoon living that life.
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ





Tom K November 2nd, 2006 11:04 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
My suggestion... Voyager. Hands down.

My reasons:

I've been on about 14 Celebrity sailings and about 10 Royal Caribbean
sailings, so I have a decent perspective.

Celebrity is my favorite line, but for me, for very specific reasons. And
the 2 lines are rather different.

But the first place to start is the ships. Zenith is an old, small ship
without any balcony cabins. She's nice for an itinerary like Bermuda, when
a small ship is important to get into the tight channels. But in the
Caribbean, you want BIG, BOLD, SPLASHY. And NEW.

Radiance is a pretty class of ship, but NOTHING compared to Voyager class.
If you pick Royal Caribbean, do the Voyager, or one of her sister ships.

If you look at Celebrity, the advantages it has over Royal Caribbean are the
better food and more relaxing type experience. More elegant. More chic.
More pampering. But you didn't mention any of those. And the Zenith is the
worst of the Celebrity ships.

Royal Caribbean's advantages over Celebrity are the more dramatic looking
ships, the non stop activities, ice skating rink, Johnny Rockets burger
place, etc. It's more into action. Disco open till the wee hours of the
morning. Hot casinos. Just a more "happening" type cruise experience.

If you really decided that you wanted the pampering and better food of
Celebrity, than go with one of the newer ships instead. Otherwise, go with
Voyager, or one of her sister ships Explorer, Adventure, Mariner, Navigator.
Or even the newer Freedom. That way the ship is the destination.

--Tom


wrote in message
oups.com...
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?
Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ? Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview? what we should know about additional charges? Is
some lines better for "young" people? ( beside disney's ship )? What
about shore excursions? Have You tried something? What can You
recomend? Is it better to organize our time by ourselves or buy some
excursions? We would love to hear everything what You know, every
suggestion, specialy from people who tried one of those cruises.
It's our first time and we would like to know everything before we book
the cruise
Thank You soooooo much

Eve




Splenda November 3rd, 2006 12:11 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
I believe people your age would love Voyager. The price of a 7 night balcony
is very reasonable next month. So much on the ship to keep you active and
entertained.
True the food isn't that wonderful but you can live on it.We cruised on
Voyager and weren't happy though we did enjoy the ice skating.
We love to cruise and Celebrity is our 1st choice. We are old folks and that
probably had a lot to do with it.
We are about to take Celebrity Constellation, after that cross the bridge
and NCL . January we will cruise with the Zenith, one of our favorite ships
(our 6th Zenith cruise) Then B2B RCCL Enchantment, ONLY because our favorite
shipboard entertainer is on it.
Whatever you choose, if you like it you will probably be hooked on cruising.

wrote in message
oups.com...
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?
Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ? Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview? what we should know about additional charges? Is
some lines better for "young" people? ( beside disney's ship )? What
about shore excursions? Have You tried something? What can You
recomend? Is it better to organize our time by ourselves or buy some
excursions? We would love to hear everything what You know, every
suggestion, specialy from people who tried one of those cruises.
It's our first time and we would like to know everything before we book
the cruise
Thank You soooooo much

Eve




[email protected] November 3rd, 2006 02:19 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

wrote:
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)


Ship: Your age... do Voyager. Lots to do onboard, and the food is good
enough. The downside is you might find later cruises to be too small a
ship for you after a monster like that one :-)

Length: I don't know how anyone could have a bad time on a cruise!
After a few days, you're wishing it could last at least two weeks! So
personally I'd take the longer, but seven days is okay for the first.

Cabin: I can't go without a balcony. Just to look at the stars and
moon in private and listen to the water going by.

Kev


lj November 3rd, 2006 02:25 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?
Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ? Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview? what we should know about additional charges? Is
some lines better for "young" people? ( beside disney's ship )? What
about shore excursions? Have You tried something? What can You
recomend? Is it better to organize our time by ourselves or buy some
excursions? We would love to hear everything what You know, every
suggestion, specialy from people who tried one of those cruises.
It's our first time and we would like to know everything before we book
the cruise
Thank You soooooo much

Eve


I would pick #2, mainly bcs I like those ports, but I do hope to do the #3
cruise at some point.

I like Celebrity & did a 10 day one before. It was a good cruise, but I
prefer the 7 day. I also went on the 10 day cruise in December.....I was
late 30s and was one of the youngest on the ship. We had several passengers
die during that cruise which has never happened before. Celebrity is a nice
line, a bit more upscale overall, but the ship is not as big or up-to-date
as the other lines.

So basically it just boils down to personal choice, but given your age and
that you've never cruised before, I would pick #2 (I just do not like
Jamacia).



Sue and Kevin Mullen November 3rd, 2006 02:56 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 


wrote:

1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith


For you I think that the Voyager or the Radiance of the Seas would be
a better choice. Both of these ships cater more to a younger crown,
both have rock climbing walls and the Voyager has an ice skating rink.
Both of them have good itins, so just reasearch the ports on
cruisecritic.com and see which you prefer.

The Zenith is a lovely ship, but a 10 day sailing is going to attrack
an older crowd. Also it is an older ship and wouldn't have as much for
you. I love the ship and the service, but I am more then double your
age and what I look for is much different(grin).


Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview?


There is nothing wrong with an interior room if you want to save a few
dollars. I would not take one, mainly because I love to watch the
ocean while we are in our cabin. I think a balcony would be wonderful
for a honeymoon, but you would also be fine with an inside cabin if
that is what works best for you.

what we should know about additional charges?

$10/day/person for tip, any sodas or alcohol that you drink and also
whatever you spend in the casino. There will of course be costs for
any excursions you take, cruise line or on your own.

I think the best thing for you would be to find a good cruise travel
agent and have a good talk with him/her about what would be best for
you. Also it is better to book through a TA, then to go directly to
the cruise line.

Once you decide which cruise you are booking, let us know and we can
help you plan your excursions.

sue

Rosalie B. November 3rd, 2006 03:49 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
Ed wrote:

Personally, we prefer the Celebrity cruises.... as far as the ships go.
On the other hand, we have taken a Celebrity cruise similar to the route
in your number 3 example, and having done that, I tend to think that the
stops on your number 2 example look more interesting.

If I were picking by ports, which I do, I'd prefer the Radiance of the
Seas itinerary. I don't know anything about the ships.

El Moro (fort and lighthouse) make San Juan the most dramatic
entrance of any harbor in the Caribbean There were people at the end
of the dock offering a city tour for $10 (way cheaper than the boat
tour). There is another fort (San Cristobal) to visit in addition to
El Moro, or you can take a ferry over to the Bacardi factory.

Charlotte Amalie - there are several places to go to the beach for
snorkeling (Coki Beach which is next to Coral World, or over to St.
John), and that is where a lot of people go shopping. St. John is
mostly National Park, and there are a lot of hiking trails.

St. Martin has a very nice zoo type of place, and also Orient Beach is
clothing optional.

Cozumel and Roatan are mostly known (by me anyway) as places to scuba
dive.


Warren[_1_] November 3rd, 2006 06:17 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

Tom K wrote:
If you look at Celebrity, the advantages it has over Royal Caribbean are the
better food and more relaxing type experience. More elegant. More chic.
More pampering.


Tom,

This past year I've done a crossing on Royal Caribbean's Legend of the
Seas and Alaska on Celebrity's Mercury. This was my re-introduction to
both lines after 10 and 7 years respectively. The two products - at
least on these two similarly sized and vintaged ships - are, IMHO,
completely indistinguishable down to the china and flatware used in the
dining room.

Warren


Warren[_1_] November 3rd, 2006 04:55 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
ZombyWoof wrote:
I've been to Haiti and there is a real good reason people risk their
lives at sea trying to get here.


Labadee is RCI's private enclave in a remote corner of Haiti. It's
mainly tropical beaches surrounded by mountains. Most people have no
idea they are even in Haiti when they stop at Labadee.

Warren


Brian K[_1_] November 3rd, 2006 05:15 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
On 11/2/2006 4:29 PM plucked Senior Frog's
Magic Twanger and said:
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?
Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ? Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview? what we should know about additional charges? Is
some lines better for "young" people? ( beside disney's ship )? What
about shore excursions? Have You tried something? What can You
recomend? Is it better to organize our time by ourselves or buy some
excursions? We would love to hear everything what You know, every
suggestion, specialy from people who tried one of those cruises.
It's our first time and we would like to know everything before we book
the cruise
Thank You soooooo much

Eve


Eve,

While everyone here will have different opinions about this...I can
suggest two things. Get some travel books from your local library.
Read up on the different islands and what they have to offer. Also,
Google "Adventure Travel", and / or "Adventure Cruising". That seems to
be the kind of trip that interests you. Rather than a large cruise
ship, you might want to look into sail driven cruises. Luxury sail ships
have a much lower draft and can get into ports in accessible to the big
ships. Excursions are more individualized when the number of passengers
is in the hundreds rather than thousands.

You may benefit from contacting a Travel Agent who is a full service
agent specializing in cruising. Note: By this I don't mean a cruise
consolidator. Rather, I am talking about the kind of agent who will
listen to *you* and will craft some cruise options based on your needs.
Also check into Cruise Critic on line which features reviews of the
various ships and cruise lines.

--
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Brian M. Kochera
"Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
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Charles[_1_] November 3rd, 2006 10:06 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
In article , ZombyWoof
wrote:

I've been to Haiti and there is a real good reason people risk their
lives at sea trying to get here. Not something you want to see while
on a romantic getaway, pretty much samething can be said about the
poverty of Jamaica as well.


Labadee is RCI's "private island" (okay it is not an island) but it is
a walled off from Haiti so don't see anything of Haiti except for a
craft market. It is a beach day with beautiful beaches and scenery and
a BBQ supplied by RCI.

--
Charles

RICK DAVIS November 3rd, 2006 10:33 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
Hi Eve, I would suggest Royal C. over Celebrity. Many reasons but
mostly being your first cruise Voyager and Radiance class ships are very
very smooth. You will hardly ever feel the ship move. The Zenith is a
very old ship. Nothing wrong with older ships its just you will enjoy
Voyager or Radiance more. If you can swing it get a balcony cabin. Be
warned: YOU WILL BE SPOILED AFTER THIS. You will want nothing else in
the future. But it is your Honeymoon. Any other cabin you get will be
fine. You have nothing else to compare it to so you'll be happy.

I've taken 20 cruises and 10 nights is just about the perfect length for
a cruise. 1 week flys by and 8 days is nice but 10 is best. I would
suggest if you take the 7 or 8 day cruise and you have the time take a
few extra days on your return to spend in florida. You will be so happy
you did. While your going to enjoy your cruise you will be exhausted
when you get off the ship. Being this is your first cruise you will try
to do everything thats offered. You will be up early in the morning for
your arrival into each port and you will be up late at night (casino,
disco, hanging with new friends). The day you get off the ship is also
a very early morning so no sleeping in. Trust me....take the extra time
to just sleep and relax after your cruise.

As far as ships tours I never take them. I always do my own thing. But
my comfort level is high because I've been to all the ports many times.
The average snorkelling price on a ships tour is between $25-$35 (and
up) per person. So you and your new husband will pay between $50-$75
(and up) just for a 3 hour snorkel tour. Where you can do snorkelling
yourself for $0 to $10 (taxi) for both of you for example. The ships
tours are very expensive but they lead you by the hand. So its really
all about your comfort level and expendable money.

Extra $$ costs: Tipping, Mixed Drinks (wine & beer packages), Casino,
Spa, Bingo, Photos, Ships Stores (Duty Free Shopping), Ships Tours,
Extra Charge Dining, Laundry, Room Service Tippin Dollars, Art Auction.
It can get pretty expensive if you want to do it all. Have I forgotten
anything?

Anymore questions just ask.

Rick


G&G November 3rd, 2006 10:49 PM

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It won't really matter which one you go on. All these ports are overcrowded
when the cruise ships arrive, all sell cheap t-shirts, etc. You won't be
able to tell which island you are visiting. Too touristy.
G
wrote in message
oups.com...
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel

2) 8-night Caribbean-Eastern - from Fort Lauderdale with Royal
Caribbean - Radiance of the Seas
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- St. John's, Antigua and Barbuda
- Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands
- St. Martin - Sint Maarten
- Nassau, Bahamas

3) 10-night Caribbean-Ultimate - from Tampa with Celebrity Cruises -
Zenith
- George Town, Grand Cayman
- Puerto Limon, Costa Rica
- Colon, Panama
- Roatan (Isla Roatan), Bay Islands, Honduras
- Cozumel, Mexico

We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?
Is it big diffrence between these lines ( royal and celebrity ) ? Is it
really bad to stay at interior room or it's better to pay a little bit
more for oceanview? what we should know about additional charges? Is
some lines better for "young" people? ( beside disney's ship )? What
about shore excursions? Have You tried something? What can You
recomend? Is it better to organize our time by ourselves or buy some
excursions? We would love to hear everything what You know, every
suggestion, specialy from people who tried one of those cruises.
It's our first time and we would like to know everything before we book
the cruise
Thank You soooooo much

Eve




Warren[_1_] November 3rd, 2006 11:02 PM

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RICK DAVIS wrote:
The Zenith is a
very old ship. Nothing wrong with older ships its just you will enjoy
Voyager or Radiance more.


Voyager's construction started roughly only 5 years after Zenith's
debut. If Zenith is "very old" then Voyager must be considered "old."

just saying...

(I agree about the OP probably enjoying Voyager or Radiance more)

Warren


RICK DAVIS November 3rd, 2006 11:23 PM

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Warren, Zenith is 14.5 years old. I consider that old.


Von Fourche November 4th, 2006 12:22 AM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)




There's no doubt that BIG ships are in flavor. You can't go wrong on a
Voyager class ship. I was on a seven nighter on the Mariner of the Seas, a
sister ship of the Voyager. Mariner was amazing.

As others have said, a ten nighter may attract an older crowd. Seven
nights sound perfect, especially since this is your first cruise.

As for balcony/window/inside cabin. When I was planning to go on my
first cruise (the Mariner of the Seas) I asked if I should get a balcony or
not. The best advice I got here was - there is so much to do on these big
ships that you don't really spend much time in your cabin, so you probably
wont miss a balcony. However, since this was my first cruise I decided to
get the balcony. I will say it was nice having the balcony. But we did not
spend much time out on it.
Since this is your honeymoon and first cruise I was say shoot for the
balcony but you really wont miss it if you get a window only room.



Tom K November 4th, 2006 02:57 AM

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"Warren" wrote in message
ups.com...

Tom K wrote:
If you look at Celebrity, the advantages it has over Royal Caribbean are
the
better food and more relaxing type experience. More elegant. More chic.
More pampering.


Tom,

This past year I've done a crossing on Royal Caribbean's Legend of the
Seas and Alaska on Celebrity's Mercury. This was my re-introduction to
both lines after 10 and 7 years respectively. The two products - at
least on these two similarly sized and vintaged ships - are, IMHO,
completely indistinguishable down to the china and flatware used in the
dining room.

Warren


Having done Navigator, Jewel and Mariner OTS the past 3 Decembers with the
Viking gang, I can honestly say that RCI food is pretty much below my
minimum level. Your Legend sailing may be an exception... but to me, RCI
food isn't close to Celebrity food, other than the night that Celebrity has
the stupid lamb shank. Over that same period that I've gone with the Viking
gang, I've done 3 Connie sailings, 4 Zenith sailings and 1 Century sailing.
So I think I have a decent point of comparison.

I've simply nibbled-without finishing too many RCI dinners over the past 3
years to consider the food up to Celebrity's standards. It gets to the
point where I don't even bother asking the waiter for something different...
And I won't even bother with RCI's fish of any kind. The hake and congrio
fish on Celebrity are excellent. Salmon is lousy (over cooked and bone dry)
on both. And the desserts on RCI are so bad. The only good dessert I've
had on RCI the past 3 years was the exceptional apple pie that they serve in
Johnny Rockets. Now I'm not saying all the Celebrity meals are top notch.
They're not. But I get a lot more good meals on Celebrity than on RCI.
Though it may help that I know what to pick on Celebrity based on
experience.

To me, Celebrity and RCI aren't even remotely close in terms of food.
Though maybe I'm just pickier than other. I know that a lot of the RCI
meals that I just picked at, others at the table devoured to the last drop.
They're sending back clean plates, and I'm sending back most of the meal.
So maybe I'm more fussy.

--Tom



Tom K November 4th, 2006 02:59 AM

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"Warren" wrote in message
ups.com...
ZombyWoof wrote:
I've been to Haiti and there is a real good reason people risk their
lives at sea trying to get here.


Labadee is RCI's private enclave in a remote corner of Haiti. It's
mainly tropical beaches surrounded by mountains. Most people have no
idea they are even in Haiti when they stop at Labadee.


If you go to the huts where the locals sell stuff... you quickly realize
you're in Haiti.

The Jamaican's at Ocho are amateurs compared to the Haitians.

--Tom



Charles[_1_] November 4th, 2006 03:11 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
In article , Tom K
wrote:

To me, Celebrity and RCI aren't even remotely close in terms of food.
Though maybe I'm just pickier than other. I know that a lot of the RCI
meals that I just picked at, others at the table devoured to the last drop.
They're sending back clean plates, and I'm sending back most of the meal.
So maybe I'm more fussy.


I am one who does not think RCI food is that bad. I think it is getting
better. And I think Celebrity food is getting worse. I think the food
on both is close. Honestly I was happier with the food on Crown
Princess than the food on Zenith or Mariner of the Seas.....

--
Charles

Ermalee[_2_] November 4th, 2006 03:30 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
Charles wrote:

In article , Tom K
wrote:


To me, Celebrity and RCI aren't even remotely close in terms of food.
Though maybe I'm just pickier than other. I know that a lot of the RCI
meals that I just picked at, others at the table devoured to the last drop.
They're sending back clean plates, and I'm sending back most of the meal.
So maybe I'm more fussy.



I am one who does not think RCI food is that bad. I think it is getting
better. And I think Celebrity food is getting worse. I think the food
on both is close. Honestly I was happier with the food on Crown
Princess than the food on Zenith or Mariner of the Seas.....

The food on the Zenith a couple of weeks ago was better than I've had on
a cruise ship for a long time. However, they fell short with their ice
cream. The Mercury in May had the best ice cream ever. I'm still
gaining weight just thinking about it.

Ermalee

Dick G[_3_] November 4th, 2006 03:46 AM

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"Tom K" wrote in message
...

Having done Navigator, Jewel and Mariner OTS the past 3 Decembers with the
Viking gang, I can honestly say that RCI food is pretty much below my
minimum level. Your Legend sailing may be an exception... but to me, RCI
food isn't close to Celebrity food, other than the night that Celebrity
has the stupid lamb shank. Over that same period that I've gone with the
Viking gang, I've done 3 Connie sailings, 4 Zenith sailings and 1 Century
sailing. So I think I have a decent point of comparison.

I've simply nibbled-without finishing too many RCI dinners over the past 3
years to consider the food up to Celebrity's standards. It gets to the
point where I don't even bother asking the waiter for something
different... And I won't even bother with RCI's fish of any kind. The
hake and congrio fish on Celebrity are excellent. Salmon is lousy (over
cooked and bone dry) on both. And the desserts on RCI are so bad. The
only good dessert I've had on RCI the past 3 years was the exceptional
apple pie that they serve in Johnny Rockets. Now I'm not saying all the
Celebrity meals are top notch. They're not. But I get a lot more good
meals on Celebrity than on RCI. Though it may help that I know what to
pick on Celebrity based on experience.

To me, Celebrity and RCI aren't even remotely close in terms of food.
Though maybe I'm just pickier than other. I know that a lot of the RCI
meals that I just picked at, others at the table devoured to the last
drop. They're sending back clean plates, and I'm sending back most of the
meal. So maybe I'm more fussy.

--Tom


Clearly, TK, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and while it has been
some time since I have sailed either RCI or Celebrity, there was, as of my
last sailing, no comparison in the quality of the food. I always felt that
having a pirate attack me with a fake sword while I was dining was an
attempt to distract me from the quality of the food. That was RCI.

I always felt that having the table captain ask if there was anything
special we would like, and having one of our tablemates ask for Seafood
Louie, a dish I was not familiar with, and having him provide this marvelous
feast at lunch put that line a notch above the rest. That was Celebrity.

And we love lamb shank. VBG
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ



Charles[_1_] November 4th, 2006 03:51 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
In article , Ermalee
wrote:

The food on the Zenith a couple of weeks ago was better than I've had on
a cruise ship for a long time. However, they fell short with their ice
cream. The Mercury in May had the best ice cream ever. I'm still
gaining weight just thinking about it.


There is something wrong with the ice cream on Zenith. I don't know if
it is how they are making it or storing it. But that is recent.

Crown Princess had great ice cream. Ten times better, I had some almost
every night on the side of my deserts. I only mention Crown Princess
because I am going to have a lot of ice cream in three weeks.

--
Charles

Sue and Kevin Mullen November 4th, 2006 04:00 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 


Charles wrote:
In article , Ermalee
wrote:


The food on the Zenith a couple of weeks ago was better than I've had on
a cruise ship for a long time. However, they fell short with their ice
cream. The Mercury in May had the best ice cream ever. I'm still
gaining weight just thinking about it.



There is something wrong with the ice cream on Zenith. I don't know if
it is how they are making it or storing it. But that is recent.

Crown Princess had great ice cream. Ten times better, I had some almost
every night on the side of my deserts. I only mention Crown Princess
because I am going to have a lot of ice cream in three weeks.


Charles, would you please do me a favor and check out the hot tub
situation on the Crown Princess. I am curious to know if they ever got
all of them working.lol

sue

Charles[_1_] November 4th, 2006 04:02 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
In article , Sue and Kevin Mullen
wrote:

Charles, would you please do me a favor and check out the hot tub
situation on the Crown Princess. I am curious to know if they ever got
all of them working.lol


They got the second one working at the Lotus Pool. I don't recall, was
there something wrong with another hot tub somewhere else?

--
Charles

Sue and Kevin Mullen November 4th, 2006 04:11 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 


Charles wrote:

In article , Sue and Kevin Mullen
wrote:


Charles, would you please do me a favor and check out the hot tub
situation on the Crown Princess. I am curious to know if they ever got
all of them working.lol



They got the second one working at the Lotus Pool. I don't recall, was
there something wrong with another hot tub somewhere else?


The aft one was fixed and then broken again. I think it was only the
Lotus Pool hot tub and the aft one that had problems. As I am sure you
remember us complaining, it was a long walk to find the hot tub not
working.lol

sue

Charles[_1_] November 4th, 2006 04:19 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
In article , Sue and Kevin Mullen
wrote:

The aft one was fixed and then broken again. I think it was only the
Lotus Pool hot tub and the aft one that had problems. As I am sure you
remember us complaining, it was a long walk to find the hot tub not
working.lol


After you complained they fixed the one at the Lotus Pool. There are
two at the Lotus Pool. The one they fixed had hotter water. I never
used the one at the aft. I think there were little kids in that one
when I was around there and I avoid hot tubs frequented by toddlers....

--
Charles

Ermalee[_2_] November 4th, 2006 04:21 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
Charles wrote:

In article , Ermalee
wrote:


The food on the Zenith a couple of weeks ago was better than I've had on
a cruise ship for a long time. However, they fell short with their ice
cream. The Mercury in May had the best ice cream ever. I'm still
gaining weight just thinking about it.



There is something wrong with the ice cream on Zenith. I don't know if
it is how they are making it or storing it. But that is recent.

Crown Princess had great ice cream. Ten times better, I had some almost
every night on the side of my deserts. I only mention Crown Princess
because I am going to have a lot of ice cream in three weeks.


I've always wanted to do one of Sue's annual 'junkets', but I am
thankful that I didn't book this one. We are dealing with a case of
congestive heart failure at our house. May involve hospital time if
there's no improvement this weekend with home care. Dr. is stopping by
daily.

Ermalee ---also glad we didn't go on the Sleazy; I guess 3 cruises this
year is enough :-)


Warren[_1_] November 4th, 2006 04:31 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

RICK DAVIS wrote:
Warren, Zenith is 14.5 years old. I consider that old.


You said "very old" s/s Norway was very old. QE2 is very old.

My point was that Zenith isn't that much older than Voyager of the
Seas. So if you consider her "very old" then Voyager by your definition
is merely "old."

Warren


Warren[_1_] November 4th, 2006 04:40 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

Tom K wrote:
Your Legend sailing may be an exception... but to me, RCI
food isn't close to Celebrity food


To your palate perhaps. However, the menu on both ships was nearly
identical and once again while I enjoyed my meals on Legend of the
Seas, I had to send back a couple on Mercury. Sorry, but I have to say
that Celebrity's cousine is no great shakes - and slightly less than
what I experienced on Legend of the Seas. They even use the same china
and flatware.

And be careful about suggesting that Mercury isn't as up to snuff
within the Celebrity fleet. Otherwise I'll have to remind you about how
you react when others say the same regarding Carnival and your opinion
of Density. ;-p

Warren


Warren[_1_] November 4th, 2006 04:42 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

Charles wrote:
Honestly I was happier with the food on Crown
Princess than the food on Zenith or Mariner of the Seas.....


I completely agree, Charles. When I had lunch aboard Crown Princess I
said to my partner "this is what the food SHOULD have been on
Celebrity!"

Warren


Warren[_1_] November 4th, 2006 04:48 AM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

Dick G wrote:
it has been
some time since I have sailed either RCI or Celebrity, there was, as of my
last sailing, no comparison in the quality of the food.


And, IMHO, your perception is outdated. There was nothing special about
the food or service on Mercury. Your description of the attention to
detail by the dining room staff described what I experienced on RCI.

Go figure.

Warren


Charles[_1_] November 4th, 2006 12:48 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
In article , Ermalee
wrote:

I've always wanted to do one of Sue's annual 'junkets', but I am
thankful that I didn't book this one. We are dealing with a case of
congestive heart failure at our house. May involve hospital time if
there's no improvement this weekend with home care. Dr. is stopping by
daily.


I am sorry to hear that.

--
Charles

Rick[_3_] November 4th, 2006 01:33 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 

Warren wrote:
RICK DAVIS wrote:
Warren, Zenith is 14.5 years old. I consider that old.


You said "very old" s/s Norway was very old. QE2 is very old.


s/s Norway is not very old....its extinct. QE2 is very
old...agreeed.

My point was that Zenith isn't that much older than Voyager of the
Seas. So if you consider her "very old" then Voyager by your definition
is merely "old."

I still consider Voyager new "ish". 5 years in ships life is
about the same as dog years. I do admitt that I thought Zenith was
older than 14.5 years. I thought about 18+ years. Celibrity also
attracts an older crowd than Voyager or Radiance will. Note: every
week is different on a ships voyage. There is no way to tell the
passenger make up on any given voyage so my age comment may not be
accurate either. But Royal C. WILL offer more to do especially for a
younger couple.

Warren



Crabman November 4th, 2006 01:35 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 
wrote:
We decided to buy our first cruise:
place - Caribbean, time - December, we found too many nice cruises and
now we are confused what is the best for us? We need some help.... :)

We have three types:
1) 7-night Caribbean-Western - from Miami with Royal Caribbean -
Voyager of the Seas
- Labadee, Haiti
- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
- Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
- Cozumel




We have a lot of questions, we are under 30, we would like to see a
lot, we like snorkeling, exotic places, good fun etc. It will be our
honeymoon, but we want to spend it in active way. We don't want to
spend all day on the beach.
Do You think 1st cruise for 10 nights isn't too long for first timers??
Is it better to take 7 nights?



Eve


Eve, My family has only been on 4 Cruises so far. I can tell you this,
we are hooked for life!
My recommendations would be:

..7 days on your first cruise
..Go to Grand Cayman and book a snorkel trip with Captain Marvins to swim
with the stingrays(THIS CAN NOT BE MISSED, and has been one of the
greatest experiences of our lives. No Joke.)
..Go with an open mind as to what to expect and you will be amazed at how
enjoyable cruising is.(like being royalty for a week)

Just my perspective!

Clay

Sue and Kevin Mullen November 4th, 2006 02:13 PM

First cruise - CARIBBEAN - questions
 


Charles wrote:
In article , Sue and Kevin Mullen
wrote:


The aft one was fixed and then broken again. I think it was only the
Lotus Pool hot tub and the aft one that had problems. As I am sure you
remember us complaining, it was a long walk to find the hot tub not
working.lol



After you complained they fixed the one at the Lotus Pool. There are
two at the Lotus Pool. The one they fixed had hotter water. I never
used the one at the aft. I think there were little kids in that one
when I was around there and I avoid hot tubs frequented by toddlers....


The funny thing is that both the Lotus Pool and aft hot tubs were
fixed after we spoke to the pursers desk and the man in charge of that
stuff. The Lotus hot tub continued working, but the aft one closed
again, don't know what the story was with it. We never saw kids in the
aft hot tub, but doesn't mean there weren't any. Since you are up
early and got a lounger every day, you were better off in the lotus
pool area.

sue

Tom K November 4th, 2006 03:27 PM

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"Ermalee" wrote in message
. ..


I've always wanted to do one of Sue's annual 'junkets', but I am thankful
that I didn't book this one. We are dealing with a case of
congestive heart failure at our house. May involve hospital time if
there's no improvement this weekend with home care. Dr. is stopping by
daily.

Ermalee


Sorry to hear that Ermalee. Hope everything works out.

--Tom



clint November 4th, 2006 05:35 PM

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The Caribean is mostly palm trees and cloureds1
"ZombyWoof" wrote in message
...
On 3 Nov 2006 08:55:14 -0800, "Warren"
wrote something wonderfully witty:

ZombyWoof wrote:
I've been to Haiti and there is a real good reason people risk their
lives at sea trying to get here.


Labadee is RCI's private enclave in a remote corner of Haiti. It's
mainly tropical beaches surrounded by mountains. Most people have no
idea they are even in Haiti when they stop at Labadee.

Since I've been to the "real" Haiti in the Military I've never had any
desire to got to anywhere with Haiti in the name. I'll take your word
that they may have created a "Tourists" only enclave somewhere and
that all cleaned up it might be quite lovely, but the money generated
is only being generated to further corrupt & subjugate the local
people so I'll pass. The whole place is corrupt as corrupt can be.

--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof





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