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Byker May 6th, 2019 06:38 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
"MM" wrote in message ...

It was announced on this morning's Sky News that a lot more
passengersmight have escaped down the front slides if people had not
stopped tocollect luggage from the overhead lockers.

Could one not make the case that every passenger seen on the tarmac*with
luggage* should be prosecuted for collective manslaughter?


Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to go...

Keema's Nan May 6th, 2019 06:49 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

"MM" wrote in message ...

It was announced on this morning's Sky News that a lot more
passengersmight have escaped down the front slides if people had not
stopped tocollect luggage from the overhead lockers.

Could one not make the case that every passenger seen on the tarmac*with
luggage* should be prosecuted for collective manslaughter?


Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.



Byker May 6th, 2019 07:01 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
"Keema's Nan" wrote in message
news.com...

On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?


Yup

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.


But American planes survive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9yjg_nJzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-LCORFB860

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37z5R2rJ5E


Fredxx May 6th, 2019 08:12 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On 06/05/2019 19:01, Byker wrote:
"Keema's Nan"Â* wrote in message
news.com...

On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to
go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?


Yup

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.


But American planes survive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9yjg_nJzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-LCORFB860

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37z5R2rJ5E


http://lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lls/...on_losses.html

Suggests it's a rare event, but also doesn't discriminate between
manufacturers. I guess there is one more to add to the list.

Keema's Nan May 6th, 2019 08:38 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

"Keema's Nan" wrote in message
news.com...

On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?


Yup

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.


But American planes survive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9yjg_nJzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-LCORFB860

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37z5R2rJ5E


Of course, because they can only be vastly superior to everything else.



George May 6th, 2019 09:14 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On Mon, 06 May 2019 18:49:45 +0100
Keema's Nan wrote:

On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

"MM" wrote in message
...

It was announced on this morning's Sky News that a lot more
passengersmight have escaped down the front slides if people had
not stopped tocollect luggage from the overhead lockers.

Could one not make the case that every passenger seen on the
tarmac*with luggage* should be prosecuted for collective
manslaughter?


Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to
go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.


Aircraft being struck by lightning is a very common occurance


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Joe[_13_] May 6th, 2019 09:59 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On Tue, 7 May 2019 08:14:14 +1200
George wrote:

On Mon, 06 May 2019 18:49:45 +0100
Keema's Nan wrote:

On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

"MM" wrote in message
...

It was announced on this morning's Sky News that a lot more
passengersmight have escaped down the front slides if people had
not stopped tocollect luggage from the overhead lockers.

Could one not make the case that every passenger seen on the
tarmac*with luggage* should be prosecuted for collective
manslaughter?

Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way
to go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.


Aircraft being struck by lightning is a very common occurance


Yes, I was on a flight where we were told by the captain that the
aircraft had been hit by lightning.

He told us *after* we had landed...

--
Joe


dott.Piergiorgio May 7th, 2019 09:46 AM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On 06/05/19 22:59, Joe wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2019 08:14:14 +1200
George wrote:



Yes, I was on a flight where we were told by the captain that the
aircraft had been hit by lightning.

He told us *after* we had landed...


perchance was an European airline ?

Dunno about US airline pilot recruiting, but here (EU) many civilian
airline pilots came from EU airforces, carrying with them the military
pilot's proverbial braggadocio...

(sometimes I think that the gun camera was invented in a desperate
attempt to sorting out the actual figure of enemy losses..)

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.


abelard May 7th, 2019 01:35 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On Mon, 06 May 2019 18:49:45 +0100, Keema's Nan
wrote:

On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

"MM" wrote in message ...

It was announced on this morning's Sky News that a lot more
passengersmight have escaped down the front slides if people had not
stopped tocollect luggage from the overhead lockers.

Could one not make the case that every passenger seen on the tarmac*with
luggage* should be prosecuted for collective manslaughter?


Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.


they are lowering the metal content of the skin...
i'm not sue if that is entirely a good idea


--
www.abelard.org

Keema's Nan May 7th, 2019 02:51 PM

Plane crash in Russia
 
On 7 May 2019, abelard wrote
(in ):

On Mon, 06 May 2019 18:49:45 +0100, Keema's Nan
wrote:

On 6 May 2019, Byker wrote
(in ):

"MM" wrote in message ...

It was announced on this morning's Sky News that a lot more
passengersmight have escaped down the front slides if people had not
stopped tocollect luggage from the overhead lockers.

Could one not make the case that every passenger seen on the tarmac*with
luggage* should be prosecuted for collective manslaughter?

Check out "Airplaneski" (1995) sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr6JY6f2fw

Things have improved somewhat, but Aeroflot still has a LONG way to go...


A long way to go to do what?

Emulate the superb safety record of Boeing aircraft?

Any flying metal tube can be struck by lightning.


they are lowering the metal content of the skin...
i'm not sue if that is entirely a good idea


I think that the fuselage would act like a Faraday Cage, but the main problem
is what the various electrical and electromagnetic fields and brief power
surges will do to the onboard computers - which are in control these days. I
imagine that the results of a lightning strike would be somewhat random on
the aircraft’s electrics.

This is not the sort of thing you want at 35000ft, but at least up there the
crew have a few minutes to attempt to gain control and/or re-boot the
computers. This is not a possibility if the aircraft is on its final approach
at a few thousand feet above the ground.




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