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The Reid May 17th, 2006 02:40 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 
Following up to Des Small

Thesinger liked it, can we call one of the great travellers
wrong?


Can we call her opinions past their use-by date? Yes we can!


Her? But yes we probably can.
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[email protected] May 17th, 2006 02:46 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 

eetinBelgië wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ma...ixtrvhome.html

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
By Teresa Machan (Filed: 13/05/2006)


Saudi Arabia hopes to attract a million visitors a year with the help
of a new tourism visa.

[snip]
Mr Habiss said that concerns over Saudi Arabia's less-than-favourable
image overseas were unfounded. "Saudi Arabia is part of the modern
world now. We cannot continue to be isolated. The Western perception is
different from the reality. Saudis are known for their hospitality, and
visitors who come will feel very differently."

Male and female visitors will have to cover up. Foreign females must
don the full-length abaya, and women under 40 must be accompanied by a
male relative.

[snip]

Does anyone see a huge contradiction between those two successive
paragraphs, or is it just me?


Dave Frightens Me May 17th, 2006 02:51 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 
On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:03:23 -0500, "Pat in TX"
wrote:


Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
By Teresa Machan (Filed: 13/05/2006)

Saudi Arabia hopes to attract a million visitors a year with the help
of a new tourism visa.


Make that 999,999
Gerry


Just male tourists? I can't think of a single female who would voluntarily
go there....


I do, but they would likely change their minds after a bit of
learning...
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Ulf Kutzner May 17th, 2006 02:55 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 
Tom Peel schrieb:

eetinBelgië schrieb:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ma...ixtrvhome.html


Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
By Teresa Machan (Filed: 13/05/2006)


Saudi Arabia hopes to attract a million visitors a year with the help
of a new tourism visa.


Eighteen approved tour operators in the kingdom have begun offering
visa services as part of a series of tourism initiatives announced last
week at the Arabian Travel Market in Dubai. The Saudi government is
also to begin issuing permits for tour guides from next month.

Until now, Saudi Arabia has been a place where people go to work rather
than play: the population of 24 million includes seven million foreign
workers, 24,000 of them Britisf nationals. Alcohol is banned, as is
photography of government buildings and palaces. Islamic principles and
social customs are strictly observed and the country adheres to Sharia
law, which allows corporal and capital punishment.

In line with its Middle Eastern neighbours, the Saudi government has
recognised the potential economic benefits of tourism as world oil
reserves dwindle.


Isn't it interesting that the countries with the largest oil reserves
are the ones that are planning for a future without oil, while the rest
of the world blunders onwards as if there were tomorrow.


They need some oil fopr the air travel. However, it's not Europe.

Regards & f'up2, ULF

The Reid May 17th, 2006 03:21 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 
Following up to

Mr Habiss said that concerns over Saudi Arabia's less-than-favourable
image overseas were unfounded. "Saudi Arabia is part of the modern
world now. We cannot continue to be isolated. The Western perception is
different from the reality. Saudis are known for their hospitality, and
visitors who come will feel very differently."

Male and female visitors will have to cover up. Foreign females must
don the full-length abaya, and women under 40 must be accompanied by a
male relative.

[snip]

Does anyone see a huge contradiction between those two successive
paragraphs, or is it just me?


its not just you. I suppose it doesn't really dawn on them how
crap the restrictions on women seems to westerners. There
probably aren't any women, gays or alcoholics in their focus
groups :-)
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
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Des Small May 17th, 2006 05:11 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 
Dave Frightens Me writes:

On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:21:22 +0100, The Reid
wrote:

its not just you. I suppose it doesn't really dawn on them how
crap the restrictions on women seems to westerners. There
probably aren't any women, gays or alcoholics in their focus
groups :-)


I read a story a few years back about a British guy that got 7 years
in jail there for bringing in some chocolate liqueurs. And some of
us were thinking Singapore was a **** location!


Time Yoorp did an article on "How to survive Port Moresby":
http://www.time.com/time/europe/tga/article/0,13005,901031208-552095,00.html,
and the Economiste used to do regular Top 10 ******** features, but
they're not mostly useful for calibrating holidays in sane places.

Des

Gregory Morrow May 17th, 2006 05:27 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 

Tom Peel wrote:

Isn't it interesting that the countries with the largest oil reserves
are the ones that are planning for a future without oil, while the rest
of the world blunders onwards as if there were tomorrow.



Well, Canada seems to be doing a good job. Can't say the same for
Russia, Nigeria, etc.

I can't imagine much interest in Saudi tourism -- unless one is
interested in camel races, etc...in any case Dubai, etc. will offer
pretty stiff competition for the traveller's pocketbook for the
foreseeable future...

--
Best
Greg


Gregory Morrow May 17th, 2006 05:30 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 

Pat in TX wrote:

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
By Teresa Machan (Filed: 13/05/2006)

Saudi Arabia hopes to attract a million visitors a year with the help
of a new tourism visa.


Make that 999,999
Gerry


Just male tourists? I can't think of a single female who would voluntarily
go there....



Not only women, but also Jews and gays...the latter two groups have
large amounts of disposable income, and women are often the deciding
factor of where a family will holiday.

--
Best
Greg


Dave Frightens Me May 17th, 2006 06:07 PM

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
 
On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:21:22 +0100, The Reid
wrote:

its not just you. I suppose it doesn't really dawn on them how
crap the restrictions on women seems to westerners. There
probably aren't any women, gays or alcoholics in their focus
groups :-)


I read a story a few years back about a British guy that got 7 years
in jail there for bringing in some chocolate liqueurs. And some of us
were thinking Singapore was a **** location!
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--

Runge May 17th, 2006 09:45 PM

eetinbelgie spammer
 
Cretinus debilitus

"eetinBelgië" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ma...ixtrvhome.html

Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
By Teresa Machan (Filed: 13/05/2006)


Saudi Arabia hopes to attract a million visitors a year with the help
of a new tourism visa.


Eighteen approved tour operators in the kingdom have begun offering
visa services as part of a series of tourism initiatives announced last
week at the Arabian Travel Market in Dubai. The Saudi government is
also to begin issuing permits for tour guides from next month.

Until now, Saudi Arabia has been a place where people go to work rather
than play: the population of 24 million includes seven million foreign
workers, 24,000 of them Britisf nationals. Alcohol is banned, as is
photography of government buildings and palaces. Islamic principles and
social customs are strictly observed and the country adheres to Sharia
law, which allows corporal and capital punishment.

In line with its Middle Eastern neighbours, the Saudi government has
recognised the potential economic benefits of tourism as world oil
reserves dwindle.

Raed Habiss, managing director of one of the tour operators,
Destinations of the Kingdom, said Saudi Arabia was keen to attract
British visitors and would offer attractive rates to travel agents.

Among the first deals on offer was seven nights at a five-star hotel in
Jeddah, including guided tours, from £750 (excluding flights).

"It is a country of cultural and geographical diversity," Mr Habiss
said. "As well as coast, mountains and desert, we have spectacular
heritage sites, unexplored dive sites and theme parks designed by
Disney engineers." Wildlife includes the Arabian leopard and the oryx.

Hoteliers are also showing confidence in Saudi Arabia. Hilton has
chosen Jeddah for its first all-suite property, to open later this
month, and the Swiss chain Mövenpick has signed contracts for three
properties in the country, including a five-star hotel in Yanbu on the
Red Sea coast. The luxury American chain Rosewood is to open a third
hotel in Jeddah, which, in a first for the country, will have a
dedicated female floor staffed entirely by women.

Last month, Bmi began a three-times weekly service from Heathrow to
Jeddah to complement a similar service to Riyadh, launched last year. A
spokesman said there had been a steady increase in passengers using the
Riyadh service and similar traffic was expected to Jeddah.

A Saudi Arabian low-cost airline, Sama, is due to be launched this
summer.

Mr Habiss said that concerns over Saudi Arabia's less-than-favourable
image overseas were unfounded. "Saudi Arabia is part of the modern
world now. We cannot continue to be isolated. The Western perception is
different from the reality. Saudis are known for their hospitality, and
visitors who come will feel very differently."

Male and female visitors will have to cover up. Foreign females must
don the full-length abaya, and women under 40 must be accompanied by a
male relative.

A tourist visa can be issued as part of a package to groups of a
minimum four people.

No British tour operators have immediate plans to feature Saudi Arabia,
but Kuoni, which offers trips to Oman, Jordan, Lebanon and the UAE,
will wait to gauge demand.




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