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Old March 16th, 2013, 11:58 PM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Mar 16, 11:30*pm, Bill wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:47:36 -0700 (PDT), dusty

wrote:

On the Boer War : this was the first modern, organised military, use
of concentration camps. Where else?


Poland in the Bar Confederation

The Spanish on Cuba in the 'Ten Years War'.

Sounds like you are part of the "Special Suffering" school...er,
Bill..


The inevitable sly anti-Semitic jibe, as expected.


Nothing "sly" Bill, very direct: I deny the lie of "Special
Suffering".

There were only several thousands of key figures of the Bar
Confederation imprisoned or deported to Siberia whereas 100's of
thousands of Boers were imprisoned and 30,000 died in the camps. For
the Jews concentration was universal, clearly a barbaric practice*. It
was so often done with the collaboration and direct aid of the leaders
of the Jewish communities.

The Ten Years War example is closer to the mark - but this applied to
those who "disobeyed" the brutal demands of the colonial power and was
only intended for the duration of the uprising, with practices rather
like the Strategic Hamlets used by the USA in Vietnam.

We could add to the list Allied soldiers in the Japanese slave labour/
death camps in WW 2, Japanese civilians in WW 2 USA, the British
civilians in the Black Hole of Calcutta, the Gulag series, including
that of 'political' prisoners and returned captured Russian soldiers.
Some Indian reservations could be loosely included, a form of
concentration more humane than the Gaza concentration in which the
inmates are periodically subjected to near-genocidal military
bombardment.

It's strange how the undoubted Jewish suffering during WW2 has
apparently had very little role at all in moderating Zionist behaviour
in Palestine and its support by the "children of the holocaust" living
in the USA, Britain etc.

Incidentally, I typed in "pre-Nazi concentration camp" on Google and
had to go through 30 pages before seeing any entry other than the Jews
in Nazi camps - and that was a refutation of Ron Paul's view that Gaza
is a concentration camp! Now that's what I call control!


* with the exception of the large numbers and capital allowed to
migrate to Palestine under the 'Transfer Agreement':
"...the agreement between Adolf Hitler and an organization of Zionist
Jews in 1933, which made Hitler "the chief economic sponsor of the
state of Israel". A sweeping, worldwide economic boycott of Germany by
Jews helped spur a deal between the Nazis and Zionists.[1] At that
time, there were few Jews in Palestine, but from 1933 through 1936,
60,000 German Jews immigrated into the region, bringing with them
$100,000,000 dollars ($1.6 billion in 2009 dollars).[2]"