On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:35:13 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
wrote:


Pan wrote:

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:28:34 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
wrote:


mag3 wrote:

Islam Yes, one does see the Islamic orientation of this country but
it's
not "in your face" at all.
in There is very little Arabic script as the national language is
"Bahasa
Malaysia" (which uses
Malays. Romanized alphabet) and not Arabic.


Despite the nice facade you saw the fact that it is a mainly Islamic
country
should be a red flag to you.

I disagree. Have you ever been there?


No.


Wonderful people.



That's on a personal level. I am talking about a societal level.

When you visit a country, do you deal with societies or people? I deal
with people.

What is the legal status of the women you saw,
their station in life?

Malay women, especially in East Coast states ruled now or until
recently by PAS, have much higher status than they did in the 1970s.
Lots of them own their own businesses. Malaysia is not Saudi Arabia.
Malay women are frequently seen driving cars and motorcycles by
themselves and sell to both men and women.


Wow! Such progress!

What exactly do you want to see? Women professors? They've got 'em.
Women judges? They've got 'em. Women cabinet ministers? They've got
'em. You are an absolute ignoramus about Malaysia. I know from the
inside what things were like in a conservative East Coast village in
the mid 1970s and what they're like now.

[snip]
*Any* nation that follows the rules of Islam is a danger or a potential
danger to world stability.. Islam has proven to be a far greater menace to
the world than National Socialism ever was.

As a Jew, I condemn your offensive remarks. If the Muslims had taken
over Europe, it seems likely that Jewish lives would have been better
and more secure than they were under hundreds of years of Christian
oppression and period pogroms following the Reconquista. If the Nazis
had taken over the world, I would never have been born.

The Nazis weren't too good to gays, either, in case you forgot about
that.

Michael

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