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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:04 PM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Mar 17, 10:27*pm, Bill wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:11:49 -0700 (PDT), dusty









wrote:
On Mar 17, 12:48*pm, Bill wrote:


* with the exception of the large numbers and capital allowed to
migrate to Palestine under the 'Transfer Agreement':
"...the agreement between Adolf Hitler and an organization of Zionist
Jews in 1933, which made Hitler "the chief economic sponsor of the
state of Israel".


Love the 'an organisation of Zionist Jews' bit.


Which organisation?


Never mind the smart arse remarks.


So it was just another lie then.

Thought so...

You deny the Transfer Agreement? Look it up Bill.


If you mean the 'Haavara Agreement, *then of course not.

Being given the choice between expropriation or death isn't really
much of a choice is it...

Plus, *entry into Palestine was in the gift of none of the parties
involved.

The "alternative" MAY have been death for the leaders -


99.9% certainty isn't really 'may'.

p. 117:
"Without Jewish help in administrative and police work--the final
roundup of Jews in Berlin was, as I have mentioned, done entirely by
Jewish police--there would have been either complete chaos or an
impossibly severe drain on German manpower.


What's your point?

Up0 until then the Jewish communities had a policy of cooperating with
the local authorities because they'd discovered that not doing so led
to worse consequences in the long run.

In the Nazis they came up against an enemy who exploited this and used
it against them and exterminated them.

Jews don't do that any more, *or hadn't you noticed?


It was the Jewish community - Zionist - leaders in Eastern Europe and
Germany who did the collaborating against the interests of the masses
of Jews, many of whom would have, as Arendt says, escaped.

Resistance ALWAYS has a price, ask the Greeks or Yugoslavs or indeed
those in the Warsaw Ghetto. Collaboration also has a price - though
the wartime Zionists have got away with it so far, thanks to fellow
travellers like yourself.


"Jews don't do that any more, or hadn't you noticed?". Yes I had: Jews
exterminate Palestinians instead. Heroic stuff!