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Old April 2nd, 2013, 07:36 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism,rec.travel.europe
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Default "..on December 30, 1972, after eleven days of those B-52 attacks on the Hanoi area, you had won the war. It was over..."

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:50:27 +0100, Bill wrote:

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:37:18 -0400, Planet Visitor II
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:46:53 +0100, Bill wrote:

You're not dealing with some snotty kid still wet behind the ears
here.


Hippies were well fortified with their own invented facts.


Me, a hippy!

You been smokin' some of that weed again boy?


I'm not your "boy." Apparently you were spitting on those marching in the Birmingham
Civil Rights protest.

I remember the headlines at the time.


Ah, yes... the good ol' media. Dan Rather and Co.


Not where I live boy.


Oh, yeah... right from the KKK.

And at the time everyone was fully aware that it was a conference
cynically designed to get the US out of Vietnam and South Vietnam, who
didn't get a voice at the conference, would be left to rot.


"Everyone"???


Yes everyone.

No exceptions...


Since I know a great number of people, and I include myself, as disagreeing
with your conclusion, it is proven to be an inaccurate claim.

Let's cut to the chase. Are you claiming that the U.S. military LOST
the war in Vietnam, in the face of for 2 and a half years not having
a single combat boot on the ground, and not having dropped a single
bomb in any air strike on North or South Vietnam???


Ran away and left their allies to the mercy of the bloody handed
Communists.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2935347.stm


And how long did the English run away from the bloody handed
Nazis, and wait to reclaim Europe from the Nazis and end the
Holocaust? Let's see... Dunkirk --ended June 1940. WW II -
ended 8 May 1945. Give it a month less than FIVE YEARS. Twice
as long as it took the North Vietnamese to illegally invade South
Vietnam. Left Europe to the bloody handed Nazis for five years.
Since we're now throwing stones. Not only that... you needed
HELP from the U.S. military.

The US Armed Forces never lost a battle, but armies only fight
battles.


And there you have it. Agreement with my comment that "the U.S.
MILITARY DID NOT lose the war in Vietnam." Pay careful attention
to the wording of that claim.

Countries fight wars, and the USA lost this one...


My comments have always referred to the U.S. MILTARY. Whatever
political choices were made has nothing to do with the U.S. MILITARY,
since by law the U.S. MILITARY does not make political decisions of
ANY kind. They can only advise those who do make such political
decisions.


Planet Visitor II