On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:08:02 +0000, David Monaghan
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:14:41 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:59:42 +0000, David Monaghan
wrote:

US Murder rate 4.8 per hundred thousand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

England & Wales murder rate 11.5 per million (1.15 per hundred thousand)

Scotland murder rate 21.4 per million (2.14 per hundred thousand) - the
second highest in Europe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/ja...owest-12-years

The occupied home burglary and assault rates in the UK are magnitudes
higher than in the US.

And a little known fact..if one removes the gang killings where gang
members kill gang members..the US falls to 1.5 per hundred thousand.

If you eliminated most of the UK murders on the basis they happened to
people who don't count, the UK rate would be lower, too.

So in the UK...the dead dont count? Fascinating world view you
hold.Cold, nasty and brutish..but typically English.

Which is not bad at all for a country that has universal firearms..some
400,000.000, million of them..

You know, that's the first time I've heard a gun proponent suggesting guns
would be expected to increase the domestic murder rate: Normally the
argument is that guns make life safer.
Indeed they do.


Anyway, I take your point: If you pretend two thirds of the murders don't
happen, the US murder rate is only 30% higher than England & Wales. I can
see why you're proud.
Fascinating your attempt to spin. Weak, poorly done, but typical of the
lot.

So I say..about those gun deaths when firearms were readily available to
all Brits....1 in London for the entire year, when gentleman carried a
pistol and ladies had a pistol in their hand muffs...
And now when they are utterly banned...

Seems the English have come totally aglay, eh wot?


DaveM

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch