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Old April 5th, 2013, 04:50 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism,rec.travel.europe
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Default "..on December 30, 1972, after eleven days of those B-52 attacks on the Hanoi area, you had won the war. It was over..."

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:04:04 +0100, Bill wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:36:23 -0400, Planet Visitor II
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:50:27 +0100, Bill wrote:


The US Armed Forces never lost a battle, but armies only fight
battles.


And there you have it. Agreement with my comment that "the U.S.
MILITARY DID NOT lose the war in Vietnam." Pay careful attention
to the wording of that claim.


deathly silence

Countries fight wars, and the USA lost this one...


My comments have always referred to the U.S. MILTARY. Whatever
political choices were made has nothing to do with the U.S. MILITARY,
since by law the U.S. MILITARY does not make political decisions of
ANY kind. They can only advise those who do make such political
decisions.


Utter lunacy.


In other words, you have nothing rational to offer. Have you considered
banging your shoe on the rostrum at the UN??

The USA was well thrashed.


I guess we should have nuked Hanoi. Would you then claim the U.S.
Military had not lost the war in Vietnam??

If the politicians tell you to run away the army runs away.

The only ones who "ran away" were the South Vietnamese, two
and a half years after the last American combat boot had left South
Vietnam, or any combat action in Vietnam had taken place. Then
the North Vietnamese ILLEGALLY invaded South Vietnam. I suppose
your argument is that because the North Vietnamese ILLEGALLY
invaded South Vietnam, and violated a peace agreement forged with
the U.S., the U.S. MILITARY SHOULD HAVE used a nuke against Hanoi,
and since the U.S. MILITARY DIDN'T - that's your "proof" they lost
the war.

It remains beaten...


Oh... the agony of de feet. Perhaps you're ****ed that the U.S. Military
didn't return to Vietnam as a result of the ILLEGAL invasion of South
Vietnam by the North Vietnamese, in order to kill a few more million
Vietnamese to satisfy your bloodlust. Yeah... I can see why you'd
consider the U.S. military "lost." We didn't kill enough of the Vietnamese
people to satisfy that bloodlust of yours, and killing ten Vietnamese
for every American lost just isn't enough for you, since you expect the
"winner" to kill at least 100 to 1. Of course, we could have done
10,000 to 1 with that good ol' nuke that you "wish" we had used so
you could call us "winners." What's a few POWs being killed as
"collateral damage," in nuking Hanoi, as far as you're concerned???

'The stab in the back' remains a fiction used by defeated armies
throughout history.


Well, you are the "master of fiction."

Face it son, you got whipped...


Considering that you were still trying to get Susie into dropping her
knickers in the third grade when the Vietnam war raged, how would
you know, little man?



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