On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:06:06 +0000 (UTC), bill
wrote:
Then you can provide those claimed mistakes were actually erronious and
not actually mistakes at all...but your "source" was trying to cover up
the fact that armed citizens were involved in helping the police.
Trot them out if you would be so kind.
Ill be waiting with amused interest.
I already gave it, and it's the same book that Wikipedia gives.
The Battle of Stepney, Colin Rogers
Please note that on the page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Si...detectives.jpg
There's a picture of the house on fire.
No sign of artillery damage at all...
Odd..I cant see if there is any or not. Small bore arty was common in
1911 Under 1" was very common
Which reminds me...you claimed they were shooting .380s
7.65 mm Browning (.32 ACP) from the listing of the Dreyse used in the
various shootings
Now Im rather curious....how you went from the Tottenham Outrage in
1909..to this event in 1911.
Did you by any chance have a stroke?
Which reminds me...
http://web.archive.org/web/200910280...utrage1909.htm
"In addition to the two deaths, there was a large number of injuries to
both the police and civilians. At the time of the 'Outrage' there was
not the prohibition of today on private firearm possession. Some of the
participants in the chase carried guns and had probably served in the
Army, both here and overseas, keeping their weapons as souvenirs.The
official reports lists 7 wounded Police Officers and 17 wounded
civilians."
http://pfoa.co.uk/193/the-tottenham-outrage
Constables Bond and Fraiser jumped through one of the windows of the
police station into Chestnut Road and other officers, who were aroused
from sleep, hastily put on whatever clothing immediately came to hand
and ran out the front entrance to join the hue and cry. When the robbers
turned and fired at them, Bond used a ‘small revolver’ he had borrowed
from a passer-by to fire four shots in return but they all missed.
.......
According to Superintendent Jenkins: ‘The chase which had now become
most desperate was continued with splendid determination. The murderers
proceeded over the footbridge spanning the Great Eastern Railway, then
in a north easterly direction to the west bank of the River Lea.
Following this course to Chalk Bridge which spans the river just beyond
the rifle butts, thence onto the Mill Stream Bridge where they held the
crowd at bay for a considerable time’. It was here that Cyril Burgess
was hit in the ankle. Several men who had been duck shooting on
Tottenham Marshes and nearby Banbury Reservoir had joined in the chase
and they used their shotguns to return fire. It was here that Constable
Nicod decided that enough was enough. He too borrowed what Jenkins
described as a ‘revolver’ from someone in the crowd and went forward.
Kneeling down on the bank of the river he took aim and squeezed the
trigger. Nothing happened. Although described as a ‘revolver’ it may
well have been that it was a self-loading pistol and that the officer
was unfamiliar with how it worked. In any event he beat a hasty retreat
and both Hefeld and Lepidus fired at him. He was hit twice but
subsequently recovered from his wounds."
Odd..the last was from the Police Firearms Officers Association wasnt
it?
VBG
So far..you are loosing..and badly
Oh...as a side note..the other pistol appears to be a Bergman, both from
discription OF the maker and from photos..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann_1896
Cartridge
5mm Bergmann (nº 2)
6.5mm Bergmann (nº 3)
8x22mm Bergmann (nº 4)
5 round FIXED magazine
Gunner
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in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
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