Steve Kramer wrote in message ...
IIJIMA Hiromitsu wrote:
Yes, Narita really IS that inconvenient
if Kyoto is your destination; KIX is greatly preferable.

Actually, I think you'll find that you can get from Narita to Kyoto via
the Shinkansen faster than you can get from KIX via either the bus or
the combination of trains, depending on the time of day, even though the
distance is double. Getting to and from KIX is a real pain!


Not always so.

Correct. Not always so. Which is why I didn't say it was 'always so.'
That is why I added the phrase "depending on the time of day." I should
have also added 'depending on the part of Osaka or Kyoto that you wish
to get to or start from, but I didn't think that a lawyer would be
responding.

When you get to KIX, then you'll just ride JR's express "Haruka" going to
Shin-Osaka and Kyoto directly. The express just takes 75 minutes to Kyoto.

That's wonderful if you are going to kita Osaka or downtown Kyoto. But
not if you are going to Sakai, Uji, or Yawata. Kyoto isn't just Kyoto
Station either. All these areas are very large, and there are many ways
to travel that work well for one area but not as well for another. But
then, you know that.

I can't imagine any situation where flying into Narita to travel to
Kyoto is preferred over KIX. The time to get to Kyoto station from KIX
is about the same as going from Narita to Tokyo, where you then have
to lug your bags to a new train and take a three hour or so ride to
get to Kyoto station. If you're going to any part of the Kyoto
Hinterlands you'll probably be taking a local line from Kyoto Station
regardless.

But he might want to see Tokyo as well, which makes flying into/out of
Narita a good idea. My concern would be falling asleep on that long
train ride and getting terrible jet lag.

John W.