On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:44:15 +0000 (UTC), bill
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:39:10 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:

I'd have thought a retired police officer would know that.

Retired? No. I quit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottenham_Outrage

"By this time, all those on foot had arrived at the scene where the
motor car had crashed, and Constable Bond borrowed a small revolver
from a member of the crowd " and so forth and so on....

Except if you read the book 'The Battle of Stepney' by Colin Rogers
with care you'll find the guns the police borrowed were all actually
inside two gun shops and the revolver obtained had just been collected
from being repaired.

And it was being carried by a civilian, fully loaded on his person.

No, it had been taken to a shop to be repaired.

All the ammunition acquired by the police that day came from gun shops.

So they stopped the chase, went back to the gun shops, purchased or
levied ammunition, made sure it fit the weapon, then left and resumed
the chase?

No.

The weapons were in the gun shop.

The shop supplied the ammunition.

After they acquired the guns and ammunition, mainly shotguns, they
resumed the chase in a commandeered horse and cart , chasing the gunmen
who had hijacked a tram...

Then you can provide cites to this effect? Ive supplied cites from (4)
different sources so far and you have provided...nothing except verbage.

Trot em out.

It all reads now like a bit of a farce but I imagine it was all dead
serious at the time with the terrorists (Described as 'anarchist gunmen
at the time but the survivors of the group seem to have all joined the
Soviets in later days and at least one became a secret police official.)
shot dead.

But of course.




We don't know the identity of the person involved, thet may well have
been a serving officer in the armed forces.

And in the UK the police are considered to be civilians.

So you are sayin the cops borrowed guns from fellow cops?

That's the sort of sophistry that completely invalidates your argument.

"In December 1910, three London policemen investigating a burglary at a
Houndsditch jewelry shop were murdered by rifle fire.

Wrong.

Famously shot with 7.65mm Mauser pistols.

True enough. But one only was a 7.62 Mauser.
Care to advise what the other one was?
VBG


Seven-hundred and fifty policemen,
supplemented by a Scots Guardsman unit, besieged Sidney Street. Home
Secretary Winston Churchill arrived on the scene as the police were
firing artillery and preparing to deploy mines. Banner headlines
throughout the British Empire were already detailing the dramatic police
confrontation with the anarchist nest. Churchill, accompanied by a
police inspector and a Scots Guardsman with a hunting gun, strode up to
the door of 100 Sidney Street; the inspector kicked the door down.
Inside were the dead bodies of two anarchists."

So many mistakes.

Churchill ordered the troops deployed, no artillery was used and the
house burned to the ground and two bodies were found in the smoking
rubble.

Cut and paste propaganda snipped to preserve sanity.


Then you can provide those claimed mistakes were actually erronious and
not actually mistakes at all...but your "source" was trying to cover up
the fact that armed citizens were involved in helping the police.

Trot them out if you would be so kind.

Ill be waiting with amused interest.

Gunner



One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch