On Sun, 2 May 2004 18:38:02 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote:

Apparently wrote:

Ken Tough wrote:
Apparently BroJack wrote

If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?

America is one of the few countries that executes children.
Do you promise not to execute his kids?

[whatever relevance that is...]

None whatsoever, especially since when one gets executed here, it is
because they are a very bad criminal, while one getting raped in SA is
getting raped by a criminal. Except when mistakes are made, which is
one of the major reasons I am against the death penalty.

Of course it's of no relevance, it was tongue-in-cheek, primarily
because the comment about a tourist's infant child being raped is
also stupidly irrelevant.

Tell it to the infant's parents.

Yes, there is a problem with rape in this country, especially as
a cultural thing. But the risk to tourists is small. The violence
against farmers is also a red-herring, unless the intention is to
penalize the country as a means of revenge. It isn't a government
promulgated policy (as it is in Zimbabwe), but something which sadly
falls lower on the priority list than some of the other problems.
The best means to cure the problem is to make the best of what the
country is, not what you want it not to be.

Maybe you missed this:

Correct these facts, chump:

EXCERPT: in 1999 South Africa had 121 murders and 119 rapes per
100,000 inhabitants, compared with Colombia’s 69 and 6 respectively
(and the United States’ 5 and 32)

EXCERPT: South Africa has seen the rise of vigilante groups filling
the void left by an incompetent (affirmative action, again – one third
of policemen are functionally illiterate) and violent police – who
between 1997 and 2000 killed 1,550 people, compared with 2,700 killed
by the apartheid regime in 30 years.

EXCERPT: South Africa has the world’s largest number of persons living
with HIV/AIDS: 5 million of its 44 million citizens are HIV-positive.
Only 42 million are infected worldwide [snip] But Mbeki has repeatedly
stated that he did not believe the "thesis" that AIDS is caused by
HIV, or that it is a virus at all.
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5979

South Africa: The Downside of Liberation
By Michael Radu