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Old January 21st, 2013, 12:01 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Norovirus like any virus is spread by hand to mouth/nose/eyes or any
part of the body you touch after touching a surface where the virus is
present. The key is to wash your hands frequently. Having a hand held
shower is not going to make any difference. As for cleanliness, whatever
did people do before hand held showers? They used a washcloth and
scrubbed. Then they rinsed. If you put the towels and washcloth on the
floor when done, you will get fresh ones when the room is made up. I
believe you mentioned going camping. I have gone camping and have yet to
encounter a bidet or hand held shower. What did you do there? By your
line thought the norovirus must have run rampant throughout the camp site.


In the old days, we did not have showers. When I was on a ship in
1950, there was a sink and a separate bathtub in a separate room on
the ship which you made an appointment to use. The steward would
'draw your bath'. At my house when I was pre-high school age, there
was a claw-foot tub. We washed with a washcloth and did not get a
bath more tan about once a week unless we were actually dirty. My
mother washed our hair in the sink. If we went camping, we would go
to a motel about every three days so we could have a bath. I didn't
move into a house with a shower until about 1950.

I DO appreciate a hand held shower because I normally (at home) sit to
shower. If I can't do that the shower has to be extremely brief
because I can't stand for long without pain. On this last cruise we
had a tub, and I asked for a shower chair.. They said I couldn't have
one because I might fall. I don't understand that logic. I think the
most obvious place to fall is getting into or out of the tub - not
sitting in a chair in the tub to shower. So I sat on the edge and
tried not to get too much water on the floor

Some ships are more vigilant about noro than others. I've been on
both kinds.

The last several cruises I've been on, I've gotten sick, but not with
noro. In 2009, my granddaughter got a cold and gave it to me
(thanks!) and it turned into bronchitis. In 2011 I got pneumonia, but
not from a cruise ship. I was sick for months. In 2012 in the
winter, people got on with the flu, and I got it and it took me a
long time to get over it. (I had a flu shot but I was in Australia and
it wasn't a protection against the Australian variety) This last
cruise (Jan 2013), my husband got a cold which I think has turned into
bronchitis, and now I've got it. He can't even blame it on flying
because we drove to the cruise.

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The other bone of contention was my sense of humor. I offered that giving religous tracts in lieu of cas tips was a GREAT idea. The costs can be as little as a penny a piece, but could save someone from an unattractive eternity. A win/win situation! Otherwise, just pay the tips and don't get all fancy with gift certificates or home-made fudge.

The first round of umbrage I experience there, was when I bragged I bought gifts of diamonds and gold for friends. In Alaska, the t-shirt shops have "black diamond" necklaces for a buck, and little vials of gold flakes for two. You'd have thought I had personally wrung the neck of the baby Jebus by the response I got for that. That'll teach me not to shop Diamonds International.

I think people who cruise are looking for a "safe" holiday. Those who frequent CC are looking for a safe internet experience. I guess I just rocked the boat too much for their delicate nature.



I once posted something on CC which was removed. I got a personal email
from the moderator giving me the reason why the post was removed. Are
you possibly leaving out the parts where you were given reasons why your
posts were removed, and why you were banned? Most boards including CC
will give you a reason why you were banned. They also don't do it for
frivolous reasons.