Yes, it's always a good idea to know something about the law. I'm
concerned about what you've just said however. Were they given an
official fine for R700, or did the cop simply tel them that the fine
was R700?

No official fine, R700! My mother said they didn't have that amount of
money, then the police officer said how much do you have? R400! That's ok
then. Remember this was the 1st time my parents were fined in SA. Beeing
dutch they didn't know what to expect. Maybe it wasn't even a real
policmen....


I SUGGEST that you tell the officer to rephrase his comment, and make
absolutely dure that what he said couldn't possibly be construed as
asking for a bribe. I SUGGEST that if the officer again asks for a
bribe that you refuse, and take his name and details and report him. I
SUGGEST that you don't offer him a bribe.


At the end it is his word (and that of his fellow policemen) against my
word. We are in a township, he's the black man armed with guns, and I am a
white guy, unarmed... If I would be convinced that by following your
suggestions traffic would become safer...sure!



I SUGGEST that your public disclosure that you paid a bribe to a
traffic officer is nothing short of repugnant.

The Naked Truth: I think more then 80% of the readers of this NG would find
my disclosures useful. What they want to do with it, is everybody's own
responsibillity.


I SUGGEST that publicly admitting that you committed a criminal
offence (and showing a disgusting smugness about it to boot) is
EXACTLY what this country doesn't need

Appartheid and white supremacy is what this country doesn't need, training
police in the fight against organised crime (not speeding 9 km) might be
another suggestion? Post your suggestions to the South African Police
Department, in your 'fight' against corruption...



YOU broke the law by speeding. YOU should pay the penalty, and not
contribute to criminal lawlessness by paying bribes. The next time you
moan about police ineffectiveness, high crime levels, etc. remember
that YOU have nothing to complain about because YOU are part of it.


Actually... I am not sure if I broke the law. 7-10 km speeding is
discussable in a court of law, because of difference is speedmeters. But to
safe time and efforts you could discuss the fine with the policemen.
Furthermo I dind't bribe anyone, I paid a fine. And they are negiotable
in SA, also when you pay directly at the Magistrate Court. The policemen
told me what the fine was, and I paid... for my crime
Rape, murder, molest etc. is not comparable with 9 km speeding on a road
where there was hardly any traffic.


I SUGGEST that you should hang your head in shame.

I SUGGEST that you get a life. What I experienced happens every day
somewhere in SA, don't blaim the messenger. In Holland I would never try to
bribe a policemen, but this is Africa (as you should know) and not a colony
of England anymore (thank God for that!).

However, thanks for your input, always nice to hear a different point of
view.

Regards from the sunny bush

Corné.

www.amukela.com




I am not telling that this person should attemt to bribe a police
officer,
just sharing my experiences.

Keep well.

Regards from the sunny bush,

Corné.

www.amukela.com