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Old June 23rd, 2005, 12:04 AM
mrtravel
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landlocked wrote:

"Statistically insignificant"
My cruise that started May 20 and ended May 29 had 85 passengers and 14
crew infected as stated by the CDC.


I was referring to the 3 people showing on what I think was the 3rd report.

These 99 people amount to 3
percent of the population aboard ship. The CDC VSP alarms go off at 2
percent, the threshold for an official inquiry and on-ship inspection.
Why haven't you commented on the people who didn't report their
sickness to the ship? Numbers add up.


I can't comment on the unknown, other than to say it was unknown.
I also suspect that some of the "known" ones could have been faking it
to get compensation. I don't know. My comment was that 3 people on a
cruise would have been statistically insignificant.


"Presumably, since the previous sailing, they have taken steps to
prevent it on future sailings."
Actually, if you compare the dates in my posting, 59 infected people on
the previous cruise is LESS than the 99 people infected on my cruise.
The ship was more infected on the second cruise.


There is the possibility that someone took it on the second cruise.
I don't see your point though, since according to you, you didn't have
it. Since you had the "expert" opinion of a nurse, why bother with the
doctor. Without testing, I doubt the nurse or you would know for
certain. I also don't recall what you said the doctor diagnosed this as.
According to you, he didn't not diagnose you with this infection and
you also indicated that the nurse passenger also said you didn't have it.
However, since you were sick, it makes sense that you would stay in your
cabin, as your immune system had been weakened and this made you more
prone to catching an infection.


I'll assume you're a 'sympathetic vote. Please don't take the ship's
side until you actually visit the web sites in my posting above and
read the inspection reports carefully.


Right, everyone should always take the passenger's side of the story.


The CDC is very careful about
not alarming the public. Look at the CDC web site. It doesn't take a
rocket scientist to realize how dirty similar Royal Caribbean ships
have been historically been - it's on the CDC web site.


It's on the CDC web site, so therefore the info was available to you.
Your complaint seems to be that Voyager isn't issuing negative press
releases. Do you see other cruise ships reporting their problems like
this? Presumably, the Voyager has been passing US health inspections.
Have you considered that a ship can be very clean and someone can still
some onboard and infect the passengers? How often did you clean your
hands after touching things in public areas?


The Voyager of
the Seas' management attitude has been sloppy keeping her clean.


Does this


Washing down staircase handrails and elevator pushbuttons and using
sanitizer for hand-washing is not the same as unseen and unclean food
preparation areas or a contaminated water supply.


Once again, be
neutral and visit the CDC web sites in my posting above and read the
inspection reports.


If they didn't pass US health inspections, they wouldn't be sailing.

For 97 percent of the hundreds of thousands (or millions) of Royal
Caribbean passengers who never got sick on their ships, this is all a
moot discussion. But if you're in the 3 percent,


Do you have information indicating 3 percent of passengers get ill on
this ship due to something the company has done? The facts as posted,
don't reveal this percentage of their total passengers, let alone prove
the ship was at fault.