"aggression against the South"...HAHAHAHA. Attend any Confederate
reenactments of late?

What Planet Visitor II and the Poetic Justice don't get is that in
their attempt to re-fight the Vietnam war, they want to hold high the
'honor' of the US military. This is a joke. No military fights
exclusively as a gun-and-ammo war. The US attempted...actually the US
MILITARY attempted to win the 'hearts and minds' of the Vietnamese
living in the south...AND in this they FAILED, and did so miserably.

The US Military attempted to stomp out the Vietnamese Resistance to
the occupation fo their country and they FAILED.

The US Military attempted to WIN...and they FAILED. What part of
FAILURE don't you understand.

The Military is part and parcel of the overall state structure of the
U.S. that attempted, as a system of political economy, to turn Vietnam
into a colony. That the US Air Force was vastly superior to the
Vietnamese is has absolutely no importance in the way the Vietnamese
*fought* the occupation of their country. Giap, et al simply
understood this better than William Westmoreland, C. LeMay and LBJ.

In the overall battle the Vietnamese won. This means that all
components of the US Imperialist attempt to occupy Vietnam failed.
Again.

The U.S. movement was critical to the victory of the Vietnamese though
there was never any actual connection of significance to this. It was
wishful thinking on the part of the Vietnamese gov't that if they
killed enough GIs, downed enough planes, caused the draft of millions
of youth, that the US would blink. Their wishful thinking was part of
this.

I was proud of the Vietnamese gov't defeating my own gov't here in the
U.S. I was only 17 when the Vietnamese liberated what became Ho Chi
Mihn City. I had a cork map of Vietnam and during the offensives,
despite massive bombings by the US in the south of their country, one
by one, each provincial capital fell to the liberation forces.

Just as I would be proud of the White Rose organization had I been a
German youth during WWII fighting for my own gov'ts defeat.

The real cause of the defeat of the US military in Vietnam was the
inability of people like those on this list who grovel in their own
form of self-pity in a vat of blind, know-nothing "patriotism". The
only patriots in this whole conflict where the Vietnamese youth,
workers and peasants who fought the US to a *standstill* and came out
victorious.