in article , Keith Willshaw at
wrote on 10/14/03 7:28 PM:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Keith Willshaw writes:

This is simplistic at best, any defense lawyer can and will point
out that this is a common figure of speech and rarely carries
the literal meaning implied.

Any prosecutor will point out that he said it, and ten minutes later, he
did it.


So what, the use of the words mean nothing in it self, historically
succesful prosecutions for murder in brawls are rare and words
uttered in the heat of anger are a poor basis for an argument
of premeditation. Of course the law on this varies, in many US
states pre-meditation is not required, under English law it is.

Keith




Only what we call "First degree" murder. Not second degree.