Ken Pisichko wrote:
Xomicron wrote:

David Smith wrote in
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Xomicron wrote:

The United States did not lose the Vietnam militarily. They lost
it politically.

According to most Americans, you didn't lose the War of 1812
either.

The US didn't lose the War of 1812.

Sure you did. The US declared war on Britain and invaded Canada, but
were unsuccessful. After several attempts to achieve their objective
they gave up. So I guess your idea of a victory in that conflict,
like Vietnam, is gathering up your troops and running home.

The purpose of the war was to stop British impression of US sailors.
This was accomplished. The war was a successful defense of American
rights, culminating in the victory at New Orleans. Because New
Orleans was successfully defended, American expansion into the
Southwest was possible. Neither side lost territory.

Don't forget "your" opposition also left you with a Black House.

Ah! Who can forget "The house that had been the site of so many happy
occasions was in ruins.
All that remained were the scorched sandstone walls."
http://www.whitehousehistory.org/04/subs/04_b_1812.html