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Old August 4th, 2009, 01:48 AM posted to rec.travel.misc,sci.space.policy,alt.politics
giveitawhirl2008
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Default How to get yourself a vacation on another WORLD !!!

On Aug 3, 8:46*pm, giveitawhirl2008
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On Aug 2, 8:08*am, Sylvia Else wrote:





giveitawhirl2008 wrote:
Previously, I proposed the gov't sell seats on upcoming Moon and Mars
missions. Since I'm also trying to gather support for high-speed
exploration of the Outer Planets - Saturn's worlds, etc. - selling
seats on missions to Titan, etc. was also proposed. Here is a proposal
that might let YOU get to go for FREE!


First, BTW, while not trying to encourage gambling, I've also proposed
Lottos with a space trip as a prize. Actually, I suspect such Lottos
will not do well unless their are big CASH prizes, also. That way
people are motivated to play even if they think they might ultimately
be too chicken to go into space. Nothing is more attractive than just
plain old MONEY. You could win a big cash prize AND a space trip, and
if you freak about the trip just before signing the contract with its
"death and dismemberment" clauses, etc., you could be allowed to GIVE
the trip part to any qualifiable person of your choice.


But here's the main idea: the gov't could SELL some seats for millions
and maybe even billions of dollars. But any citizen of any country
participating in the exploration program could enter a lottery for
FREE, simply by registering online. One entry per citizen; you must
qualifiable to be trained as an astronaut, a la Russian tourist trips
to the ISS. Some seats will be filled by people who just win drawings!
All drawings controlled by the governments involved, of course. That
way, no gambling but public interest might be very strong!


So the Billionaires and the Commons all have a chance!


This could encourage people to join this effort to have the government
fund the human solar system exploration program!


http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...thread/thread/...


http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...hread/thread/6...


How many people would actually want to go once they realised it involved
* years spent without enough room to swing a cat?


I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been developed.


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(Also responding to BradGuth, on swinging cats, etc. - Schrodinger
didn't like cats, either, did he?) :-)

Sylvia Else wrote: " I think I'll wait until fusion rockets have been

developed."

That's one my most key points; the idea is to develop a FAST system.
It might be fission, fusion, antimatter, or whatever. The idea to me
is to have CONGRESS MANDATE acceleration of 1G and cruising speed of 1
million mph.

You reach 1MMPH in like 14 hours, + or -, at 1G ; approx. 20 mph/sec/
sec - you go 21 mph. or 32 ft/sec, FASTER, EACH SECOND, at 1G. Since
1G is what you are experiencing right now (the earth's crust is
pushing up against you at 1G, while the earth's MASS wants you to move
toward its center; walk into an empty elevator shaft and the earth's
mass wins - until you hit bottom, at which point the ground is winning
the struggle again) then it will be a comfortable ride.

So, you reach cruising speed of 1 MILLION MPH in well less than one
day. Very roughly speaking, Jupiter and its orbiting wonders are a
half billion miles away; Saturn and ITS worlds are a billion miles
away. [Really, less than that.] That's 500 hours-ish to Jupiter and
1000 hours-ish to Saturn. Again, roughly, it's THREE WEEKS to Jupiter
and SIX WEEKS to Saturn! (Each way.) No need for prisoners or other
doomed people to accept this trip! Anyone willing to go on a 'round
the world curise has enough time to visit these awesome worlds!

As to cats and accomodations: With a poweful enough propulsion system,
like the Orion Project type and others, accomodations could be quite
nice! Maybe even arificial G, as on the rotating crew habitat on the
"Discovery" spacecraft in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey:"

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/centrifuge10.jpg

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first link no workie; trying this:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...D2%26hl%3De n