"ajali" wrote in message
om...
For your information, there are 3 level of knowledge where the muslims
follow.
First is the Qur'an (the holybook).Second is the hadith ( the words
and the behavior of the Prophet). Third, Ijmak Ulama (the concensus of
the Ulama or Scholars)

The qur'an is the highest source of knowledge. However, there are
cases where the Qur'an did not explain clearly what the muslims should
do. So, they rely on the hadiths.

So how do you know the Hadiths actually
are not false, MORON?


The hadiths compliment the Qur'an.

How so?
You just said if its not in the Quran...
the Hadith was relied on...
So thats in ADDITION to the Quran...
not complimentary...you idiot.


But as human life get more complicated as the time pass by, there are
many cases where the muslims could not get a clear guide from the
Qur'an and hadiths.

So they have ulamaks to make up stories
and then attribute that to God?
LIARs.


For example, many many years ago, the scientists has find a way to
help couples to have a baby through "test tube" method. You cannot
find a clear explanation about the issue in the Qur'an or hadiths. So,
the muslims struggle to figure out the issue. Is it ok for muslims to
have a baby through this new method? Some people say yes, and some
people say no.....In the event like this, this is where the ulama play
their role. They will debate it and find a common decision. Finally
they came out, its ok as long as the eggs and the sperm used came from
a married couple.

And MORONs like you then claim that their
decision is "Islamic" and that its unIslamic
to go against you ulamak?
Tell us how in the above process can anyone
be sure that God actually agree to all thats
been determined by your ulamak?

And if you cannot, how do you then claim
later or that the ulamaks decision is from
God or part of God's edict to humans?
LYING ingrates.


Regarding "suicide" and "syahid". If you study the qur'an...killing
yourself is totally a sin and against Islam. However, the "suicide"
that we witnessed today have different flavor into it. They killed
themselves while taking the enemy along. Because of that nature, the
ulama still have difficulty to decide whether it is a plain "suicide"
which is a sin and "shahid" because of the sacrife is based on
destroying the enemy......So it still up in the air.

Tell us... great LIAR....
Where can we find hadiths (you did
say that you rely on hadiths for guidance)
that mentiond that the prophet asked his
people to commit suicide as you suggest
against the pagan Arabs back then who
outnumber them.
LIAR.


Some say its
"syahid", some says it not. If you ask the Palestinians, they will
answer it as shahid. They say thats the only way the can defend
themselves from the Israel. But for people who live far away like us,
our ulama might see it differently. So I think, as far as I know there
is still no concensus about it.

What make you think that "consensus" equates
to God's will?
MORON.