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Mxsmanic wrote: I see a lot of people losing time and money whenever the Olympics come to town. A few people get rich, everyone else suffers (including, in many cases, the taxpayers). Canadian taxpayers are still paying for the 1976 Montreal Games... The Olympics is a nice idea on paper, but really it's an idea now that is as passe as holding a World's Fair (remember them?). There is really no reason to hold them anymore, other sporting events/venues can easily take their place... And since the focus these days seems to be on the "professional" (read: "commercial") aspect of sport, let private entities pay for any "Olympics", the public doesn't need still more of their money poured down a rat hole... -- Best Greg |
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco wrote: nitram wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:49:32 +0100, (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco) wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco writes: It's not bogus. What the hell do you know about it? I see a lot of people losing time and money whenever the Olympics come to town. A few people get rich, everyone else suffers (including, in many cases, the taxpayers). You didn't answer the question. My Greek dentist told me that it would take at least two generations to pay off the debts incurred by holding the Olympic Games in Athens, I'm sure it probably will, but I'm interested in why the proposed urban regeneration deprived areas of London is supposed to be "bogus" exactly, and all Mixi has in 'evidence' is that other host countries lose money. well, duh. Does he have evidence it's fraudulent- it's not going to happen? No, and besides, if urban regeneration of that part of London 'lost' money (given taxpayers are always ultimately involved in these kinds of regeneration projects) that may be neither here nor there anyway. Hey, let London hold the Olympics in the Millenium Dome! ;-p -- Best Greg |
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wrote: Here in New York, I don't know a single person who wants the Olympics. We're hoping some European city gets suckered into hosting it. The construction projects would create massive disruptions for city residents for months if not years leading up to the games, and our taxes are high enough without having to pay off Olympics debt. Who really cares about the Olympics anymore anyway, with ten different 24-7 sports channels on the telly? What sport would anyone want to watch that you can't watch normally - synchronized diving? team handball? ribbon gymnastics? Well said! -- Best Greg |
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco wrote: Well, people will stlll be coming to London, Paris, Madrid, NYC or Moscow. They're hardly out of the way destinations. I don't see your point. The regeneration in Manchester just because of the _Commonwealth_ Games was pretty significant, and proved a real boost to the city. But David the UK is a rich country and Manchester's situation was improving in any case... I can see the Olympics being a "prestige" event that proclaims a country as finally being an equal contender on the world stage, e.g. Tokyo 1964 but for any developed nation it's really a waste of time and money. Sports venues are nice, but they are really a luxury for the few paid for by the taxes of the many. There is *no* economic value accruing to a city or region from holding professional sporting events...in fact professional sports teams, facilities, etc. are *always* a money - loser... Let private business pay the price for any professional sporting events/infrastructure, us taxpayers are sick and tired of subsidising wealthy team owners, etc. etc.... A city like New York needs to spend those billions on a direct rail link to JFK airport, London's subways need re - building, Paris needs to pay attention to it's poorer citizens in the suburbs...no taxpayer money needs to be spent on sports. -- Best Greg |
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Garbage taken out.
Donna Evleth From: "Runge" Organization: les newsgroups par Wanadoo Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:29:43 +0200 Subject: Paris the world's choice for the 2012 Olympics "Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news: ... from http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../01/c6292.html PARIS Overwhelmingly the People's Choice as 2012 Olympics Host City The majority of consumers in 38 countries give Paris the nod "The majority of respondents in 27 out of 38 markets surveyed chose Paris as their preferred host for the Olympic Games in 2012, followed by Madrid and London as their joint second," said Janice Jackson, Senior Vice-President, Choices of Asia Pacific ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Country First Choice Second Choice Third Choice ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia Paris Paris Paris & New York ------------------------------------------------------------------------- China Paris London London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hong Kong Paris Paris Paris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- India Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indonesia Paris London Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Japan Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Korea Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Malaysia Paris Paris Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Paris Paris Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philippines Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Singapore Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taiwan Paris London London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thailand None of them Paris & London Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Asia-Pacific Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- North and South America make different choices. New York is first choice in the North, while Paris is first choice in the South. South Africa goes with London. Choices of North America ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Country First Choice Second Choice Third Choice ------------------------------------------------------------------------- US New York London London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Canada New York Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- North America New York London London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Choices of Latin America ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Country First Choice Second Choice Third Choice ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brazil Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chile None of them Madrid London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mexico Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Latin America Paris Paris Paris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Choices of South Africa ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Country First Choice Second Choice Third Choice ------------------------------------------------------------------------- South Africa London Paris Paris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Europe, Madrid gains secondary preferences. Eight countries choose Madrid as either first or second choice. Choices of Europe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Country First Choice Second Choice Third Choice ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Austria Paris Madrid London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Belgium Paris Madrid London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Denmark Paris Paris New York ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finland Paris Paris Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- France Paris Madrid London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Germany Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greece Paris Madrid Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ireland London Paris Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Italy Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Netherlands Paris Paris Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norway Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poland Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Portugal Madrid Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Russia Moscow Paris Paris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spain Madrid Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sweden Paris Paris Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Switzerland Paris Madrid London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turkey None of them Madrid Paris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK London Paris Madrid ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Europe Paris Paris London ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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In article .net,
"Gregory Morrow" gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net wrote: Canadian taxpayers are still paying for the 1976 Montreal Games... The Olympics is a nice idea on paper, but really it's an idea now that is as passe as holding a World's Fair (remember them?). There is really no reason to hold them anymore, other sporting events/venues can easily take their place... And since the focus these days seems to be on the "professional" (read: "commercial") aspect of sport, let private entities pay for any "Olympics", the public doesn't need still more of their money poured down a rat hole... And yet, civic institutions, including municipal, state and national govts. rush to get their bids in. |
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