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Pearson Airport-Downtown Options?
I'm travelling to Toronto next week. Other than taxi are there any
good and fast options - I'm not trying to do this real cheap as my client is paying so I'm more interested, especially when I leave Toronto which will be on a 6 p.m. being able to get out to the airport reasonably quickly. |
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Pearson Airport-Downtown Options?
"Skookum" wrote in message oups.com... I'm travelling to Toronto next week. Other than taxi are there any good and fast options - I'm not trying to do this real cheap as my client is paying so I'm more interested, especially when I leave Toronto which will be on a 6 p.m. being able to get out to the airport reasonably quickly. I was on my own money so I caught the bus. Everyone that I worked with thought I was a nutcase tim |
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Pearson Airport-Downtown Options?
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Subject: Pearson Airport-Downtown Options? I'm travelling to Toronto next week. Other than taxi are there any good and fast options - I'm not trying to do this real cheap as my client is paying ... The four available choices are regular public transit (TTC), Airport Express bus, taxi, and airport limo. ("Limo" here meaning basically a first-class type taxi service, for airport travelers only. For trips in the direction to the airport, you phone for one.) Based on one-way, single-trip fares and assuming that "downtown" means somewhere south of Bloor and between Bathurst and the Don Valley, the current fares are $2.75 by TTC, $15.25 by Airport Express, $46 plus tip by taxi, $50 plus tip by limo. (For taxis the mandatory flat fare applies only in the direction from airport to city.) Taxi, limo, or Airport Express all use the same expressways and will be subject to the same traffic delays. (The Airport Express operates every 20 minutes at busy times, and serves a series of specific points downtown, which can take it some time to get between.) So if cost is not an issue and you're going to take one of those options, you might as well use a limo. The TTC option means taking the subway from downtown to Kipling station in the west end. Depending on where downtown you are starting from, this might involve taking two subway trains (changing at St. George station or at Bloor and Yonge). At Kipling station you go upstairs and change to an almost-express bus (route 192, "Airport Rocket") which takes Dundas Street to highway 427 and then proceeds to the airport by the same route as the services from downtown. The trip time by TTC will certainly be slower than the other options are when traffic downtown is moving well, but it's more reliable, as the subways bypass the street congestion. On the other hand, it will be crowded at rush hour -- you might be standing -- and the 192 bus has no luggage compartment. At busy times, subway trains operate every 2-3 minutes and the 192 is every 10 minutes or better. If your "downtown" location is near Bloor Street, the TTC option looks better since you when need only one subway train plus the 192 bus, and a taxi will take longer to reach an expressway than from a point further south. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "If you want a 20th century solution, the | obvious answer is helicopters!" -- Bob Scheurle My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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On Mar 16, 6:27 pm, (Mark Brader) wrote:
N. Dale writes: Subject: Pearson Airport-Downtown Options? I'm travelling to Toronto next week. Other than taxi are there any good and fast options - I'm not trying to do this real cheap as my client is paying ... The four available choices are regular public transit (TTC), Airport Express bus, taxi, and airport limo. ("Limo" here meaning basically a first-class type taxi service, for airport travelers only. For trips in the direction to the airport, you phone for one.) Based on one-way, single-trip fares and assuming that "downtown" means somewhere south of Bloor and between Bathurst and the Don Valley, the current fares are $2.75 by TTC, $15.25 by Airport Express, $46 plus tip by taxi, $50 plus tip by limo. (For taxis the mandatory flat fare applies only in the direction from airport to city.) Taxi, limo, or Airport Express all use the same expressways and will be subject to the same traffic delays. (The Airport Express operates every 20 minutes at busy times, and serves a series of specific points downtown, which can take it some time to get between.) So if cost is not an issue and you're going to take one of those options, you might as well use a limo. The TTC option means taking the subway from downtown to Kipling station in the west end. Depending on where downtown you are starting from, this might involve taking two subway trains (changing at St. George station or at Bloor and Yonge). At Kipling station you go upstairs and change to an almost-express bus (route 192, "Airport Rocket") which takes Dundas Street to highway 427 and then proceeds to the airport by the same route as the services from downtown. The trip time by TTC will certainly be slower than the other options are when traffic downtown is moving well, but it's more reliable, as the subways bypass the street congestion. On the other hand, it will be crowded at rush hour -- you might be standing -- and the 192 bus has no luggage compartment. At busy times, subway trains operate every 2-3 minutes and the 192 is every 10 minutes or better. If your "downtown" location is near Bloor Street, the TTC option looks better since you when need only one subway train plus the 192 bus, and a taxi will take longer to reach an expressway than from a point further south. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "If you want a 20th century solution, the | obvious answer is helicopters!" -- Bob Scheurle My text in this article is in the public domain. That is very helpful, Mark. It opens to me another possibility for eluding snagged downtown traffic when I'm leaving - taking the TTC to Kipling and then hailing a taxi if the 192 is not at hand. |
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That is very helpful, Mark. It opens to me another possibility for
eluding snagged downtown traffic when I'm leaving - taking the TTC to Kipling and then hailing a taxi if the 192 is not at hand. I think Kipling station may actually have a taxi stand, but if so, it'll be something like 700 feet away from where you get the 192 bus. The way the station is laid out, the bus terminal is on the upper level immediately above the subway platform, with all the different bus stops strung out in a line, and the 192 is at the east end. The station's street exits are reached by going down from the west end of the subway platform into a cross tunnel that goes under the subway tracks (and the adjacent railroad line), then up again. The passenger pickup/dropoff ("kiss-and-ride") building is off that tunnel and if there is a cab stand it'll either be at that building or by one of the street exits near it. Unlike most Toronto subway stations, Kipling was mainly built for people arriving by public transit or by car, not for walk-in traffic. If there isn't a cab stand or if there are no cabs waiting, the nearest main street (Dundas Street) is a block north of the station. And it's not a street that gets a lot of pedestrian traffic, so it may not be easy to hail a cab there. You could phone for one from the station (Kingsboro, 416-232-2222, is the best company for that area), but it'd probably be quicker to wait for the next bus. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "It's been proven. Places stay clean until somebody | drops the first piece of litter." -- TTC poster My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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On Mar 17, 9:12 am, "Skookum" wrote:
On Mar 16, 6:27 pm, (Mark Brader) wrote: N. Dale writes: Subject: Pearson Airport-Downtown Options? I'm travelling to Toronto next week. Other than taxi are there any good and fast options - I'm not trying to do this real cheap as my client is paying ... The four available choices are regular public transit (TTC), Airport Express bus, taxi, and airport limo. ("Limo" here meaning basically a first-class type taxi service, for airport travelers only. For trips in the direction to the airport, you phone for one.) Based on one-way, single-trip fares and assuming that "downtown" means somewhere south of Bloor and between Bathurst and the Don Valley, the current fares are $2.75 by TTC, $15.25 by Airport Express, $46 plus tip by taxi, $50 plus tip by limo. (For taxis the mandatory flat fare applies only in the direction from airport to city.) Taxi, limo, or Airport Express all use the same expressways and will be subject to the same traffic delays. (The Airport Express operates every 20 minutes at busy times, and serves a series of specific points downtown, which can take it some time to get between.) So if cost is not an issue and you're going to take one of those options, you might as well use a limo. The TTC option means taking the subway from downtown to Kipling station in the west end. Depending on where downtown you are starting from, this might involve taking two subway trains (changing at St. George station or at Bloor and Yonge). At Kipling station you go upstairs and change to an almost-express bus (route 192, "Airport Rocket") which takes Dundas Street to highway 427 and then proceeds to the airport by the same route as the services from downtown. The trip time by TTC will certainly be slower than the other options are when traffic downtown is moving well, but it's more reliable, as the subways bypass the street congestion. On the other hand, it will be crowded at rush hour -- you might be standing -- and the 192 bus has no luggage compartment. At busy times, subway trains operate every 2-3 minutes and the 192 is every 10 minutes or better. If your "downtown" location is near Bloor Street, the TTC option looks better since you when need only one subway train plus the 192 bus, and a taxi will take longer to reach an expressway than from a point further south. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "If you want a 20th century solution, the | obvious answer is helicopters!" -- Bob Scheurle My text in this article is in the public domain. That is very helpful, Mark. It opens to me another possibility for eluding snagged downtown traffic when I'm leaving - taking the TTC to Kipling and then hailing a taxi if the 192 is not at hand. Actually try it the other way around -- treat yourself to a cab or limo ride to the subway station, then take the subway downtown. Subways are always running (well, almost always). TTC is effective, but tedious. |
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Pearson Airport-Downtown Options?
Just a final note - I took Mark's advice and travelled both ways on
the combo of the 192 bus and the Bloor subway to and from the city via kipling Station. It worked very well. Turned out that one of the people at the same conference I'd been at cabbed out and was on the same flight home. She spent $50 and arrived 15 minutes before I did with my $2.75 fare. And it would have been closer except someone had collapsed in the Kipling sttaion and the ambulance tied things up a bit around there. I highly recommend this way to get in and out of Toronto and thank Mark and others for their help. |
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