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Canadian flag on the backback myth
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:31:39 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
devil wrote in news On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 00:36:52 +0000, Xomicron wrote: Ken Pisichko wrote in : Bogart wrote: The US won't "win" Really? Where is Saddam? Where are the Sunni thugs who ruled that country with an iron fist? Who makes up the new Iraqi government and what are their goals? How many newspapers are now being published in Baghdad free of censorship? How many women make up that new governing council? How many young girls are for the first time going to school in Iraq? How is it that Iraq now has more social infrastructure in place than it ever did under Saddam? I understand you're mad. Rabid dogs get mad. What I don't understand is your ignorance and your willingness to spread it all over the world via the usenet. My my, so this is your definition of winning. OK so the US finally got ****ed off at Saddam AFTER supporting him and giving him all those WMDs to fight those dastardly Ayatollas ... Why did you let him go on for so long? Ask Bill Clinton. and will hand over the stinking mess they started (with their invasion) for someone else to deal with while at the same time extolling their mattra "WE won the war!! WE won the war!! What revisionistic bull****. Your superpower does not have the ability to create peace, just to "win" by killing all opposition and flattening the country. Kinda like the German Panzer division did when they opened up on the Polish Calvary at the beginning of WW II. Even though they overran Poland they had nothing but trouble for the rest of the "war". Then the Germans were defeated. The US won't win the peace offensive because they do NOT have the capability. If they did have that capability why do they pass off the destroyed countryside to someone else AND ask them to get involved in the peace process. You need to look more closely at WW2 history. The two countries who were the chief architects of WW2 - Germany and Japan were both leveled by the United States and both rebuilt via the Marshal Plan into first world countries by the same United States of America. Oh, the USA won the war! More revisionist bull****. Why were RCAF, RAF, RAAF and RNZAF aircrews bombing the AXIS powers? For practice? Why are there thousands of British, Canadian, French, Australian, New Zealand and other ALLIED soldiers buried all over this earth adjactent to or near the cemetaries of AXIS warriors? They weren't accomplishing much until the Americans arrived. Surely you must mean the Soviets? Who al;most singlehanded defeated the Nazis, while the US were more or less tied in the Pacific? Who do you think was supplying the Soviets? The Americans of course. We were supplying their war machine as well as fighting a two front war. The Soviets would have been overrun if it wasn't for American assistance and intervention in the European theater. So? The Soviets almoat singlehandedluy defeated the Nazis. With some American hardware, so what? |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:46:08 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
devil wrote in news On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:16:10 +0000, Bogart wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:15:44 -0400, David Smith wrote: Xomicron wrote: these united States have not been at war since 1945. Nice exercise in semantics. The US did not lose a war in Vietnam because they have decided that technically it was not a war, presumably? The United States did not lose the Vietnam militarily. They lost it politically. Yep. After failing to achieve a military victory Name one battle lost by US forces in Vietnam. Losing the war as a whole and limping hime with your tail between your legs isn't good enough for you? (BTW, get ready for more of the same medicine in Iraq. Seems you guys get to relearn the limits of military power every generation.) Interesting revisionist history. What's revisionist? The part that already happened, or the one that will happen? |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:50:26 +0000, Xomicron wrote:
Scott Willing wrote in : On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 02:13:19 +0000 (UTC), Xomicron wrote: Scott Willing wrote in : On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 00:30:16 +0000 (UTC), Xomicron wrote: (sneakysneak) wrote in m: Xomicron wrote in message ... You may hate us but you're still our bitches. Your ID handle is from some Futurama episode No, it isn't, but yours is from a well known homosexual. When USA is self-sufficient in terms of their energy demands, yes. The US has the potential to be, but we prefer to use up everyone else's oil first. Don't look now sonny, but you actually used up your *own* first. And, things have been looking dicey in Saudi Arabia for quite some time now. That's why Bush is over in Iraq making a lousy show of ramming democracy down peoples' throats. The liberals seem to believe that Arabs are not genetically capable of democracy and think it would be better if we just let them kill each other and threaten the rest of the planet. It would appear that the right wingers seem to believe that Arabs are not genetically capable of democracy either, since they apparently need bombs, missiles, tanks, 15000 dead civilians and an occupying force to "free" them and "help" them to determine their own future. Your numbers are inflated and have no basis in fact. I am not aware that the thugs at the White House have been publishing official fgures for Iraqi civilian casualties. So why not take his guess as a valid starting point? |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
dr nick wrote: "Xomicron" wrote in message Surely you must mean the Soviets? Who al;most singlehanded defeated the Nazis, while the US were more or less tied in the Pacific? Who do you think was supplying the Soviets? The Americans of course. We were supplying their war machine as well as fighting a two front war. All those US built T-34s? Wasn't that "C" rations? -- Chris F Long Island, USA. "When the Lord calls me home ... I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours and eternal optimism for its future, I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." - Ronald Reagan Nov. 5, 1994 |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
Ken Pisichko wrote:
Xomicron wrote: Terrorists don't give a **** if you're Canadian. They're probably chuckling at your false sense of security. Not what I said. They sure don't give a damn about US citizenship and US property - that is for sure, as events since 9/11 have shown. One more point - in spite of what you say, remember where your US bound aircraft landed.. Also remember there are LOTS of US citizens who come up to Canada - Newfoundland and Nova Scotia to reminisce about the events on 9/11 and everyone thanks their lucky stars that Canadians, Americans and everyone else who flew in to those airports managed to be taken care of until authorities deemed it safe for them to proceed onward. You may be ignorant if the fact that lots of folks from as far away as California and Texas come up to visit folks who took care of them during those troubled days and expected nothing in return. They were just being neighbourly. Why not vent your concerns about Canada to those US citizens? Too chicken****, I suppose? Those aircraft flew into safe havens because there was no option! There was no false sense of security because those airports were the only hope for those originally flying towards then-insecure USA. The world awaits your continued "definite" stupid commentary. Canadians are not interested in terrorists "probably chuckling", nor in their sense of humor - only in their "possible" terrorist acts being planned for North America. |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
In soc.culture.canada Bert Hyman wrote:
In "Robert R." wrote: Bert Hyman wrote: In Van wrote: That is no urban myth as I have personally witnessed it and was told by the Americans that they get treated better when the Europeans think we are from Canada. It is not our fault that we have a better rep than Americans. Maybe they just feel sorry for you. With people speaking the way you do it's no wonder that every ****er on earth is trying to murder your soldiers. You mouth off and they have to pay for it. Really? Making a joke about Canadians (or more precisely, a Canadian, namely you) justifies murder? NO it's all the other **** Americans do...operation indiscriminate justice, and all the other nifty names you find for your killing sprees... Are you psychotic? -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
Tim wrote in message ...
Plus they don't have enough refining capacity in the US so it really doesn't matter how much crude they/we get. -- Yes, that's why their neighbors, Canada and Mexico, who are big oil producers, are vital to the engine of the US economy, at least in terms of coping with the US consumer demand for energy, which can't be presently met sufficiently by domestic energy producers. Alberta has 175 billion barrels of proven reserves. |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
"http://www.iamnotamerican.com" wrote in message these united States have not been at war since 1945. Let's see...Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Persian Gulf II...certainly seems to have been some wars in the last 59 years. Have they won any though? |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
dr nick wrote:
"http://www.iamnotamerican.com" wrote in message these united States have not been at war since 1945. Let's see...Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Persian Gulf II...certainly seems to have been some wars in the last 59 years. Have they won any though? Let us not forget the war on drugs, eh? |
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Canadian flag on the backback myth
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 09:12:55 -0700, sneakysneak wrote:
Tim wrote in message ... Plus they don't have enough refining capacity in the US so it really doesn't matter how much crude they/we get. -- Yes, that's why their neighbors, Canada and Mexico, who are big oil producers, are vital to the engine of the US economy, at least in terms of coping with the US consumer demand for energy, which can't be presently met sufficiently by domestic energy producers. Alberta has 175 billion barrels of proven reserves. Sure, but the OP was not talking about that. He was talking about refining capacity, which is the main cause of the high price of gas in the US. This said, the same argument holds: Canada ends up exporting refined stuff to the US too. So the price goes up in canada too. |
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