Passport debate "what if"

Magellan's has luggage tags for a copy of your itinerary details, they are a
plastic pouch written on in six or eight languages that your schedule is
enclosed, this way you have a chance of getting your bags during your trip,
not just sent back home for you.

http://www.magellans.com/store/Lugga...iesLA311?Args=

If the link doesn't work, (it looks like it's chopping off the last
character) go to Magellan's and search for retriever


"Marsha L" wrote in message
...
Hey, I did say I do it, didn't I?G The first time I sent an email with a
detailed itinerary and a copy of my passport to my DIL she asked "why?"...
I
didn't bother with much more than "because". As long as she kept it
without
deleting in until I got back home I didn't see much point in going into
details.

I make a habit of typing out all pertinent itinerary details... flights...
airport transportation... lodging... ship info... next of kin contact...
whatever... and making multiple copies... I put a folded up one into the
luggage ID tag, one into each bag, carry one in my passport case and
generally put them into anything I might possibly lose or which might be a
place I'd look to get the information. It is never exposed to random
lookers
though... I'm very careful about that!

Marsha

"Ken" wrote in message
. com...
Pretty far fetched? I don't think so. This is what the State Dept. has
to
say:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/fri...asy.html#easy9
and if you don't have a passport or it is expired go here for
instructions
on
how to obtain a new one: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get_renew.html

When we go ashore my wife and I each carry a copy of both our passports
and we have a copy of both passports back at home.

Ken
http://www.sdambassador.com


"Marsha L" wrote in message
...
What's supposed to happen is that you carry a photocopy of the first
page
of
your passport when you get off of the ship, just in case of any such
eventuality. Leave the original in the safe on the ship. FWIW, I also
give
a
copy of it to someone at home, for no other reason than if there were
some
reason for them to have to prove my citizenship, then they would be
able
to.
Pretty far fetched, I know, but it's no big deal to do it.

"LES!" wrote in message
...
I decided to post a separate thread instead of jumbling up the other
thread
lol.

Anyway, I'm really more curious and the other thread made me wonder.

If Me, Jarrod and Alegra were on a cruise that went to Belize,
Honduras,
Panama and Costa Rica, and say in one of these 4 countries, we
missed
the
boat.

Would we need to have a passport to get airfare from that port city
to
the
next port city (For arguments sake, Costa Rica to Belize)? This
would
about
99.9999% guarantee a visit to the Embassy I assume? Since most of us
would
have left such information on the ship.

Has this happened? How would it be handled? Would just telling the
airport
(or whomever) that you were on X ship suffice?

Thanx for humoring me ;-)

LES!

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:26:00 -0600, "LES!" wrote:

I decided to post a separate thread instead of jumbling up the other thread
lol.

Anyway, I'm really more curious and the other thread made me wonder.

If Me, Jarrod and Alegra were on a cruise that went to Belize, Honduras,
Panama and Costa Rica, and say in one of these 4 countries, we missed the
boat.

Would we need to have a passport to get airfare from that port city to the
next port city (For arguments sake, Costa Rica to Belize)? This would about
99.9999% guarantee a visit to the Embassy I assume? Since most of us would
have left such information on the ship.

Has this happened? How would it be handled? Would just telling the airport
(or whomever) that you were on X ship suffice?

Thanx for humoring me ;-)

LES!


One cannot stress it enough: TAKE YOUR PASSPORT WITH YOU WHEN YOU
LEAVE THE SHIP!!

Sorry for shouting but really. People, it's a foreign country, you're
a foreigner to them and a strangerin a world growing increasingly
hostile to anything perceived as suspicious. Think how folks in the
U.S. react to aliens with no identification or ability to show they
are in the country legally.

Your passport is proof you are an American citizen or legeal resident
and in some places, being a foreigner without one can get you days or
weeks in lock-up, they don't even have to notify the embassy as you
cannot prove you are entitled to that.

Mexico is pretty cool if you have good I.D. and probably most popular
tour spots for cruising,but this is a "You only have to be wrong once"
sort of situation.

Country "A" may not let you leave and country "B" probably won't let
you in without one. Some places, it's a major crominal offense to not
have a passport as a foreigner.

Finally...without a passport, you may be stuck on *our* end of the
line for a long time as the inspector may nor may not take your word
and may hold you pending further examination. *Lots* of examination.

Airlines aren't even supposed to let you board a flight to the U.S.
without proof you have a legal permit to enter, such as a passport.

Carry a certified copy of your birth certificate too and keep it and
your passport number or phtocopy of the front page with the data
someplace separate, an embassy or consulate can issue a replacement
passport almost on the spot if you have those. If you don't, it may
take several days as there's a lot of back and forth to the States and
the Passport office is both overworked and underfunded and they have
to do a lot of scrutinizing to verify your claim. Not to mention in
some countries it may take oyu hours of standing in line just to see
the right person, a *lot* of people want to get intot he U.S.

Remember, you're not going to Disneyland, you are visiting a sovereign
foreign nation, event he really friendly ones like it a lot better if
you don't act like your own laws apply there.

Jim P.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:26:00 -0600, "LES!" wrote:

I decided to post a separate thread instead of jumbling up the other thread
lol.

Anyway, I'm really more curious and the other thread made me wonder.

If Me, Jarrod and Alegra were on a cruise that went to Belize, Honduras,
Panama and Costa Rica, and say in one of these 4 countries, we missed the
boat.

Would we need to have a passport to get airfare from that port city to the
next port city (For arguments sake, Costa Rica to Belize)? This would about
99.9999% guarantee a visit to the Embassy I assume? Since most of us would
have left such information on the ship.

Has this happened? How would it be handled? Would just telling the airport
(or whomever) that you were on X ship suffice?

Thanx for humoring me ;-)

LES!


One cannot stress it enough: TAKE YOUR PASSPORT WITH YOU WHEN YOU
LEAVE THE SHIP!!

Sorry for shouting but really. People, it's a foreign country, you're
a foreigner to them and a strangerin a world growing increasingly
hostile to anything perceived as suspicious. Think how folks in the
U.S. react to aliens with no identification or ability to show they
are in the country legally.

Your passport is proof you are an American citizen or legeal resident
and in some places, being a foreigner without one can get you days or
weeks in lock-up, they don't even have to notify the embassy as you
cannot prove you are entitled to that.

Mexico is pretty cool if you have good I.D. and probably most popular
tour spots for cruising,but this is a "You only have to be wrong once"
sort of situation.

Country "A" may not let you leave and country "B" probably won't let
you in without one. Some places, it's a major crominal offense to not
have a passport as a foreigner.

Finally...without a passport, you may be stuck on *our* end of the
line for a long time as the inspector may nor may not take your word
and may hold you pending further examination. *Lots* of examination.

Airlines aren't even supposed to let you board a flight to the U.S.
without proof you have a legal permit to enter, such as a passport.

Carry a certified copy of your birth certificate too and keep it and
your passport number or phtocopy of the front page with the data
someplace separate, an embassy or consulate can issue a replacement
passport almost on the spot if you have those. If you don't, it may
take several days as there's a lot of back and forth to the States and
the Passport office is both overworked and underfunded and they have
to do a lot of scrutinizing to verify your claim. Not to mention in
some countries it may take oyu hours of standing in line just to see
the right person, a *lot* of people want to get intot he U.S.

Remember, you're not going to Disneyland, you are visiting a sovereign
foreign nation, event he really friendly ones like it a lot better if
you don't act like your own laws apply there.

Jim P.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:26:00 -0600, "LES!" wrote:

I decided to post a separate thread instead of jumbling up the other thread
lol.

Anyway, I'm really more curious and the other thread made me wonder.

If Me, Jarrod and Alegra were on a cruise that went to Belize, Honduras,
Panama and Costa Rica, and say in one of these 4 countries, we missed the
boat.

Would we need to have a passport to get airfare from that port city to the
next port city (For arguments sake, Costa Rica to Belize)? This would about
99.9999% guarantee a visit to the Embassy I assume? Since most of us would
have left such information on the ship.

Has this happened? How would it be handled? Would just telling the airport
(or whomever) that you were on X ship suffice?

Thanx for humoring me ;-)

LES!


One cannot stress it enough: TAKE YOUR PASSPORT WITH YOU WHEN YOU
LEAVE THE SHIP!!

Sorry for shouting but really. People, it's a foreign country, you're
a foreigner to them and a strangerin a world growing increasingly
hostile to anything perceived as suspicious. Think how folks in the
U.S. react to aliens with no identification or ability to show they
are in the country legally.

Your passport is proof you are an American citizen or legeal resident
and in some places, being a foreigner without one can get you days or
weeks in lock-up, they don't even have to notify the embassy as you
cannot prove you are entitled to that.

Mexico is pretty cool if you have good I.D. and probably most popular
tour spots for cruising,but this is a "You only have to be wrong once"
sort of situation.

Country "A" may not let you leave and country "B" probably won't let
you in without one. Some places, it's a major crominal offense to not
have a passport as a foreigner.

Finally...without a passport, you may be stuck on *our* end of the
line for a long time as the inspector may nor may not take your word
and may hold you pending further examination. *Lots* of examination.

Airlines aren't even supposed to let you board a flight to the U.S.
without proof you have a legal permit to enter, such as a passport.

Carry a certified copy of your birth certificate too and keep it and
your passport number or phtocopy of the front page with the data
someplace separate, an embassy or consulate can issue a replacement
passport almost on the spot if you have those. If you don't, it may
take several days as there's a lot of back and forth to the States and
the Passport office is both overworked and underfunded and they have
to do a lot of scrutinizing to verify your claim. Not to mention in
some countries it may take oyu hours of standing in line just to see
the right person, a *lot* of people want to get intot he U.S.

Remember, you're not going to Disneyland, you are visiting a sovereign
foreign nation, event he really friendly ones like it a lot better if
you don't act like your own laws apply there.

Jim P.

Mike,

I agree with much of what you say except keeping a scanned image of your
passport online. If you can use it to simplify getting a replacement,
what's to stop an identity thief from doing the same?

--
________
To email me, Edit "xt" from my email address.
Brian M. Kochera
"Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951




On 07/28/2004 9:14 PM Mike Cordelli while holding "tha lizard", exclaimed:

He did have a passport with him, but it was in the safe on the ship, which
is what most of us do with it.

Passports, by the way, should only be considered good for nine and a half
years. Many countries won't accept it if it has less then six months left
on it, so at 9.5 years it becomes useless in most of the world.

Sixty Four Million passports were issued in the last ten years, there are
way more americans carrying them then most people are led to believe.

Anyhows, it's a good idea to have a copy of the main information page of
your passport with you if you don't take your passport off the ship (or they
keep them) and it's a good idea to leave one if you do take it and lose it.
We keep another copy (scanned image) online just in case. Neither of course
would be suitable for identification, but it can help in getting a new one.

In this case, it may be easier to have the ship overnight it to you from the
next port then to get a new one.



"OcnGypZ" wrote in message
...


Subject: Passport debate "what if"


There was a story, I think on the Carnival forum on cruise critic..


covering


just this type of scenario. Someone's "what if"...became a living PITA.

A passport doesn't cost much money.. and it's good for 10 years. Why more
Americans don't have one is beyond comprehension. It is the ultimate US
citizenship document.

Babette

Babette

Mike,

I agree with much of what you say except keeping a scanned image of your
passport online. If you can use it to simplify getting a replacement,
what's to stop an identity thief from doing the same?

--
________
To email me, Edit "xt" from my email address.
Brian M. Kochera
"Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951




On 07/28/2004 9:14 PM Mike Cordelli while holding "tha lizard", exclaimed:

He did have a passport with him, but it was in the safe on the ship, which
is what most of us do with it.

Passports, by the way, should only be considered good for nine and a half
years. Many countries won't accept it if it has less then six months left
on it, so at 9.5 years it becomes useless in most of the world.

Sixty Four Million passports were issued in the last ten years, there are
way more americans carrying them then most people are led to believe.

Anyhows, it's a good idea to have a copy of the main information page of
your passport with you if you don't take your passport off the ship (or they
keep them) and it's a good idea to leave one if you do take it and lose it.
We keep another copy (scanned image) online just in case. Neither of course
would be suitable for identification, but it can help in getting a new one.

In this case, it may be easier to have the ship overnight it to you from the
next port then to get a new one.



"OcnGypZ" wrote in message
...


Subject: Passport debate "what if"


There was a story, I think on the Carnival forum on cruise critic..


covering


just this type of scenario. Someone's "what if"...became a living PITA.

A passport doesn't cost much money.. and it's good for 10 years. Why more
Americans don't have one is beyond comprehension. It is the ultimate US
citizenship document.

Babette

Babette

Mike,

I agree with much of what you say except keeping a scanned image of your
passport online. If you can use it to simplify getting a replacement,
what's to stop an identity thief from doing the same?

--
________
To email me, Edit "xt" from my email address.
Brian M. Kochera
"Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951




On 07/28/2004 9:14 PM Mike Cordelli while holding "tha lizard", exclaimed:

He did have a passport with him, but it was in the safe on the ship, which
is what most of us do with it.

Passports, by the way, should only be considered good for nine and a half
years. Many countries won't accept it if it has less then six months left
on it, so at 9.5 years it becomes useless in most of the world.

Sixty Four Million passports were issued in the last ten years, there are
way more americans carrying them then most people are led to believe.

Anyhows, it's a good idea to have a copy of the main information page of
your passport with you if you don't take your passport off the ship (or they
keep them) and it's a good idea to leave one if you do take it and lose it.
We keep another copy (scanned image) online just in case. Neither of course
would be suitable for identification, but it can help in getting a new one.

In this case, it may be easier to have the ship overnight it to you from the
next port then to get a new one.



"OcnGypZ" wrote in message
...


Subject: Passport debate "what if"


There was a story, I think on the Carnival forum on cruise critic..


covering


just this type of scenario. Someone's "what if"...became a living PITA.

A passport doesn't cost much money.. and it's good for 10 years. Why more
Americans don't have one is beyond comprehension. It is the ultimate US
citizenship document.

Babette

Babette

Marsha,

Did I read this correctly? You e-mailed a copy of your passport to
someone? If you had any idea how many people can access your "private"
e-mail, you would think twice. Some hackers break into mail servers and
snoop at people's e-mail just for grins. It is an open invitation for
identity theft. Maybe this time you were lucky. But, I wouldn't make a
habit of sending important personal documents over the open internet.
It's one thing if you send them over a "secure" company intranet, if
that's what you did, cool. Just don't send personal documents over the
open internet.

--
________
To email me, Edit "xt" from my email address.
Brian M. Kochera
"Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951



On 07/28/2004 10:06 PM Marsha L while holding "tha lizard", exclaimed:

Hey, I did say I do it, didn't I?G The first time I sent an email with a
detailed itinerary and a copy of my passport to my DIL she asked "why?"... I
didn't bother with much more than "because". As long as she kept it without
deleting in until I got back home I didn't see much point in going into
details.

I make a habit of typing out all pertinent itinerary details... flights...
airport transportation... lodging... ship info... next of kin contact...
whatever... and making multiple copies... I put a folded up one into the
luggage ID tag, one into each bag, carry one in my passport case and
generally put them into anything I might possibly lose or which might be a
place I'd look to get the information. It is never exposed to random lookers
though... I'm very careful about that!

Marsha

"Ken" wrote in message
.com...


Pretty far fetched? I don't think so. This is what the State Dept. has to
say:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/fri...asy.html#easy9
and if you don't have a passport or it is expired go here for instructions
on
how to obtain a new one: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get_renew.html

When we go ashore my wife and I each carry a copy of both our passports
and we have a copy of both passports back at home.

Ken
http://www.sdambassador.com


"Marsha L" wrote in message
...


What's supposed to happen is that you carry a photocopy of the first


page


of


your passport when you get off of the ship, just in case of any such
eventuality. Leave the original in the safe on the ship. FWIW, I also


give


a


copy of it to someone at home, for no other reason than if there were


some


reason for them to have to prove my citizenship, then they would be able


to.


Pretty far fetched, I know, but it's no big deal to do it.

"LES!" wrote in message
...


I decided to post a separate thread instead of jumbling up the other


thread


lol.

Anyway, I'm really more curious and the other thread made me wonder.

If Me, Jarrod and Alegra were on a cruise that went to Belize,


Honduras,


Panama and Costa Rica, and say in one of these 4 countries, we missed


the


boat.

Would we need to have a passport to get airfare from that port city to


the


next port city (For arguments sake, Costa Rica to Belize)? This would


about


99.9999% guarantee a visit to the Embassy I assume? Since most of us


would


have left such information on the ship.

Has this happened? How would it be handled? Would just telling the


airport


(or whomever) that you were on X ship suffice?

Thanx for humoring me ;-)

LES!

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 02:33:24 GMT, "Mike Cordelli"
wrote:

If the link doesn't work, (it looks like it's chopping off the last
character) go to Magellan's and search for retriever

Hi Mike,

Or you can visit the home office and store here in beautiful Santa
Barbara. ;+)

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

In article . net,
Brian K wrote:

Did I read this correctly? You e-mailed a copy of your passport to
someone? If you had any idea how many people can access your "private"
e-mail, you would think twice.

There are several ways to send e-mail that are secure. I use a web
based https interface whenver I am away from home. Then your e-mail is
not being sent in the clear.

--
Charles