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Old December 21st, 2007, 06:29 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
mrmajestic66
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I am a former guide and I know a good tour when I see one, the WB
tour
is not one of them. Guests are promised a behind the scenes look
at
a working studio in progress.... We had strict instructions not to
let
guests walk away from either the carts or if walking to take photos
for security reasons. In no way are guests permitted on active
shooting areas to include sound stages or other areas of the studio
where active filming was to take place. No photos: guests could only
take photos in certain designated areas and only under the
supervision
of a guide, mostly the back lot area and only when their was no
active
filming. Absolutely no photography of sound stages or the front lot
or
of any talent.

According to the official Warner website: "the WB tour is the best
kept secret in Hollywood and every day is different you might see
your
favorite star or actual filming of that favorite TV show or film."
Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact the tour is
structured only to lure guests into cheap exhibits, and induce guest
back to the store and spend more.

You WILL NOT SEE ANY CELEBRITIES ON THIS TOUR!!!! And if one happens
to accidentally stumble in front of your cart, rest assured you will
not meet them, you WILL not have a photo taken with them.

One small area of the transportation department was separated in an
old garage via plastic/vinyl white tent like structure, the cheapest
material they could find to make this tourist display. You could also
hear the garage crew working on vehicles and sometimes smell exhaust
fumes from the neighboring garage area.

Not only did the tour exhibits have ventilation problems but the
studio museum air conditioner had been on the blink for the past
month
and would work in the morning but would go out in the afternoon. This
was to prove a huge mistake as several guests have passed out in the
hot exhibits. Many older guest who have trouble walking are not
allowed to sit in the cart unattended and have to leave the tour, no
refund is offered.

The studio had the idea of setting up a photo display with the old
Dukes of Hazard General Lee stunt car. We were told to bring the
guests back to the gift shop and influence them to buy the cheesy
photos and other merchandise at inflated prices.

The amount of time wasted trying to get guests to spend more money in
the store, as opposed to spending time in the few interesting studio
departments you can still visit is not worth the price of the tour.
The real issue is that do people really want to do a cheap photo by
an
old stunt car in a humid garage or see the workings of a real studio?

Recent sources that have worked the summer 07 season and been
dismissed have outlined an interesting series of events.


Run Weiner run! "THEY HAVE TAKEN AWAY ALL COMPUTERS FROM THE TOUR
DEPARTMENT!" It seems that the employee rights have been curtailed
more then increased at Weiner's by denying employee's the use of
computers for Internet and job related duties. The computers that
used
to be in the tour department (except those used by the manager or at
the ticket counter) have been removed because the guides were
obsessive about watching for updates on the Weiner blog or constantly
tuning into the blog. The blog created such a stir, that people were
checking it constantly... This computer section was a row of eight
terminals by the tour management office and an outside desk for the
manager of retail. I guess they just couldn't' bare to see their tiny
empire crumble before their eyes. The guides used the computers to
watch the Internet, a more useful aspect of the computers was the
Excel program they used to fill in the guide reports. So the reports
are simply done by hand now and are watched by managament as they are
filled in and then corrected.

Much tension exists between the guides and management as the union is
keeping a close eye on the department. I hope a seniority system is
now in place and guide hiring and retention is based on ability and
not looks. I also hope they raise pay and observe fair lunch and
break
rules. I wonder if I can get a refund for my dues?

The Weiner Bros. studio propaganda department is in full swing with
the current director and manager of the department planting many
positive reviews even one from Burbank. In a Yahoo review section at
this web address:http://travel.yahoo.com/p-reviews-2812783-prod-
travelguide-action-read-ratings_and_reviews-i

The reviews run like a tour brochure, the planted reviews were
placed
to counter a host of real negative reviews and boost the tour. It is
no surprise instead of fixing the problems with management and a bad
tour, they simply continue to stick their head in the sand and in
fact
crack down within the department. On November 18, 2007 they have
planted yet another false glowing reviewing entitled "Great Tour!"
This seems to be an expanded review that was taken from a prior
positive rating with the same title from 3.20.07. The prior review
although shorter has almost identical basic content as the November
posting, i.e. everything is great except the museum which is average
but you only spend a short time there so it is OK.

See these links:

http://theweinerbrothersvptour.blogspot.com/

http://www.savingmike.com/



Here are some sections in brief:


Go to Universal or NBC instead!


We just took the Weiner Bros tour yesterday because I had family in
town and wanted them to have a good time. I myself am a local here.
The 42.00 tour was disappointing to say the least and I would not
recommend it. I have to admit, I am shocked at the positive reviews I
read, the people must be rich and don't care about money or are
desperate for Hollywood. You don't get to see any shows being filmed
and certainly not any stars, but I think what was disappointing the
most was the fact we wasted so much time driving around looking at
the
outside of the sound stage buildings, though we were told what shows
were filmed in there, what is exciting about staring at the outside
of
a building?


Almost every place the guide took us, she informed us we were not
supposed to be there, but she would be a "rebel" and take us anyway!
If we weren't supposed to see the sets for shows, what were we
supposed to be seeing? Their big claim to fame is the Weiner water
tower, not near as much fun as taking Barham off of the 101 and
getting close to the Hollywood sign.


At the end of our tour, our last stop was the Weiner museum, where we
were told we had 8 minutes to view it. You couldn't possilbly see
anything in 8 minutes much less read any thing about it. She kept
telling us we would have to "come back" to be able to take more time
in the museum, well we felt we had paid for that privelege THIS TIME,
why would we give them another 42.00 at another time? It's
overpriced,
boring and over rated. Go to NBC for the 8.00 tour and see the set of
the Tonight Show and Access Hollywood. Go to Universal and see Jaws,
King Kong, actual movie sets, special affects and all day
attractions.
You will get more for the 50.00 you spend there as opposed to the
42.00 you pay at Weiner.


"Overall, our experience was terrible. The unfortunate thing is that
the experience is still ongoing. The golf cart that we were
assignmend
to wasn't safe mechanically. It would jerk backwards and forwards
every time the driver started to move. My guests and I questioned
whether the cart was in safe working order but the guide said it was
the worst cart ever but we'd go ahead anyway. We should have insisted
on getting on another cart because we got terrible whiplash. In
addition, the speaker system wasn't working so those of us towards
the
back half of the cart couldn't hear a thing of what the guide was
saying. The guide didn't seem to care much at all about her job and
if she was trained well for her job, it certainly didn't show.

The guide took a corner too sharply and ran up the curb into the
garden. She stopped and asked if anyone was hurt. My friends told her
that I was hurt because I'd had my elbow slammed into the arm rest
with the sudden stop going up the curb. Despite knowing this the
guide
kept driving and crashed into a concrete barrier. My friend and I
were
both hurt with whiplash and contusions.


She recommended we be taken offsite to the hospital for treatment at
their occupational health unit. We were told that all expenses would
be covered by Warner Bros. We waited for the taxi that they paid for
and we went to the hospital. Following receiving treatment at he
hospital we finally got to go home. After all what should have been a
fun day of sightseeing was a six hour nightmare. Fast forward three
months to October and we received a medical bill from the hospital
for $180. I called the VIP Tour Manager to ask why it wasn't taken
care of and I was told it would be paid by the insurance company
right
away. Fast forward another two weeks and I received the exact same
medical bill this time saying that I was late with payment. I called
the VIP Tour Manager again and I was told that it would be paid the
same day, that if the insurance company hadn't paid it by the
afternoon then it would be paid on the office credit card.


Fast forward to the following day and I received a call from a very,
very rude insurance agent asking me if I'd paid for the hospital
bill. I immediately called the VIP Tour Manager to find out what was
going on. No returned call as yet. So nearly four months later I am
still
dealing with this nightmare and I wish I had never chosen to take my
visitors to the Warmer Bros tour. As far as what you see on the tour,
I tend to agree with some of the negative reviews. You don't get to
see any stars or inside any of the working studios. You just get to
drive around and see the outdoor sets (fronts of houses, street
scenes etc). We also saw the Museum which consisted of costumes from
different shows, it wasn't very big and didn't take more than ten
minutes to see. All in all, I'd say take your money elsewhere."

If you have a complaint, you might want to also write to the studio
president and let him know what is going on with the tour department
and studio, please send correspondence to:


Alan F. Horn President and COO, Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
Warner Brothers Studios
4000 Warner Boulevard
Burbank, CA. 91522
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Old December 21st, 2007, 07:47 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Rog'
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"mrmajestic66" wrote:
I am a former guide and I know a good tour when I see one...


And yet, you're also a pest who keeps posting the same drivel
repeatedly. Message received and filed. plonk


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Old December 22nd, 2007, 11:05 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
mrmajestic66
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On dec. 21, 20:47, "Rog'" wrote:
"mrmajestic66" wrote:
I am a former guide and I know a good tour when I see one...


And yet, you're also a pest who keeps posting the same drivel
repeatedly. *Message received and filed. *plonk


"Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not
to give it." - Agatha Christie


No one one is asking you to read my posts. If you don't like what I
am doing, you can move on. Personally I love this and will continue
to post my story. The reality is that you and your friend are
sitting in some economy flat in some ghetto, chain smoking and
drinking cheap beer. You are some uneducated piece of **** that
refuses to address your issued and problems, instead of solving
problems. You type these retard insults and negative personnel
attacks which are written via a cheap Radio Shack lap and would
simply NEVER say any of that to my face... because if you did I would
cave your face in and probably put in the hospital for their rest of
your life. Looking at your posts regarding your broken marriage and
relationships maybe you should consider what an absolute loser you
are, and would NEVER have the balls to do what I've done/are doing!!
It is easy to attack people behind a computer screen in particular if
you do not know what you are talking about. If you really want to
push me, you can really find out smart mouth, how nasty a game this
can become.
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Old December 22nd, 2007, 08:02 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Jim Davis[_1_]
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On Dec 22, 5:05*am, mrmajestic66 wrote:
On dec. 21, 20:47, "Rog'" wrote:

"mrmajestic66" wrote:
I am a former guide and I know a good tour when I see one...


And yet, you're also a pest who keeps posting the same drivel
repeatedly. *Message received and filed. *plonk


"Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not
to give it." - Agatha Christie

No one one is asking you to read my posts. * *If you don't like what I
am doing, you can move on. *Personally I love this and will continue
to post my story. * * The reality is that you and your friend are
sitting in some economy flat in some ghetto, chain smoking and
drinking cheap beer. * You are some uneducated piece of **** that
refuses to address your issued and problems, instead of solving
problems. *You type these retard insults and negative personnel
attacks which are written via *a cheap Radio Shack lap and would
simply NEVER say any of that to my face... *because if you did I would
cave your face in and probably put in the hospital for their rest of
your life. * Looking at your posts regarding your broken marriage and
relationships *maybe you should consider *what an absolute *loser you
are, and would NEVER have the balls to do what I've done/are doing!!
It is easy to attack people behind a computer screen in particular if
you do not know what you are talking about. *If you really want to
push me, *you can really find out smart mouth, how nasty a game this
can become.


Good speech! Made me want to follow up on the posted sites. Decent
reading until I got to the bottom line. Asking for money to pay off
your CC debt. Begging for money on the internet. How pathetic.
  #5  
Old December 23rd, 2007, 11:51 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
mrmajestic66
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On Dec 22, 12:02*pm, Jim Davis wrote:
On Dec 22, 5:05*am, mrmajestic66 wrote:





On dec. 21, 20:47, "Rog'" wrote:


"mrmajestic66" wrote:
I am a former guide and I know a good tour when I see one...


And yet, you're also a pest who keeps posting the same drivel
repeatedly. *Message received and filed. *plonk


"Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not
to give it." - Agatha Christie


No one one is asking you to read my posts. * *If you don't like what I
am doing, you can move on. *Personally I love this and will continue
to post my story. * * The reality is that you and your friend are
sitting in some economy flat in some ghetto, chain smoking and
drinking cheap beer. * You are some uneducated piece of **** that
refuses to address your issued and problems, instead of solving
problems. *You type these retard insults and negative personnel
attacks which are written via *a cheap Radio Shack lap and would
simply NEVER say any of that to my face... *because if you did I would
cave your face in and probably put in the hospital for their rest of
your life. * Looking at your posts regarding your broken marriage and
relationships *maybe you should consider *what an absolute *loser you
are, and would NEVER have the balls to do what I've done/are doing!!
It is easy to attack people behind a computer screen in particular if
you do not know what you are talking about. *If you really want to
push me, *you can really find out smart mouth, how nasty a game this
can become.


Good speech! *Made me want to follow up on the posted sites. *Decent
reading until I got to the bottom line. *Asking for money to pay off
your CC debt. *Begging for money on the internet. *How pathetic.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The fact that is only a small section of the blog, less then a page
is regarding donations. It worked for Susan, it can certainly work for
me, soliciting for funds to take on corporate America is a lot better
then selling weed like you and your friends. Checked my blog stats
you have not been on my sites. Nor have the other two posters making
rude and baiting comments. Pretty hard to make a comment without
looking at what I have say. Makes me wonder how much Mr. Czink pays
you to do this. I though this line of attack sounded familiar.
First with the porn star from DC and then to others from Canada and
now Texas.
  #6  
Old December 23rd, 2007, 12:14 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
mrmajestic66
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Default The Weiner Brothers VP Tour: One Guides Opinion

On dec. 23, 12:51, mrmajestic66 wrote:
On Dec 22, 12:02*pm, Jim Davis wrote:





On Dec 22, 5:05*am, mrmajestic66 wrote:


On dec. 21, 20:47, "Rog'" wrote:


"mrmajestic66" wrote:
I am a former guide and I know a good tour when I see one...


And yet, you're also a pest who keeps posting the same drivel
repeatedly. *Message received and filed. *plonk


"Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not
to give it." - Agatha Christie


No one one is asking you to read my posts. * *If you don't like what I
am doing, you can move on. *Personally I love this and will continue
to post my story. * * The reality is that you and your friend are
sitting in some economy flat in some ghetto, chain smoking and
drinking cheap beer. * You are some uneducated piece of **** that
refuses to address your issued and problems, instead of solving
problems. *You type these retard insults and negative personnel
attacks which are written via *a cheap Radio Shack lap and would
simply NEVER say any of that to my face... *because if you did I would
cave your face in and probably put in the hospital for their rest of
your life. * Looking at your posts regarding your broken marriage and
relationships *maybe you should consider *what an absolute *loser you
are, and would NEVER have the balls to do what I've done/are doing!!
It is easy to attack people behind a computer screen in particular if
you do not know what you are talking about. *If you really want to
push me, *you can really find out smart mouth, how nasty a game this
can become.


Good speech! *Made me want to follow up on the posted sites. *Decent
reading until I got to the bottom line. *Asking for money to pay off
your CC debt. *Begging for money on the internet. *How pathetic.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The fact that *is only a small section of the blog, *less then a page
is regarding donations. It worked for Susan, it can certainly work for
me, soliciting for funds to take on corporate America is a lot better
then selling weed like you and your friends. *Checked my blog stats
you have not been on my sites. *Nor have the other two posters making
rude and baiting comments. * Pretty hard to make a comment without
looking at what I have say. *Makes me wonder how much Mr. Czink pays
you to do this. * I though this line of attack sounded familiar.
First with the porn star from DC and then to others from Canada and
now Texas.- Idézett szöveg elrejtése -

- Idézett szöveg megjelenítése -


If you are wondering about Mr. Peter Czink and his program of
harssment, see the listed link to the bottom. For my Internet fraud
expose and the harassment that ensued, which details how advanced
dealers, brokers and collectors produce fakes and then sell them to
the public, eScam, The Internet Fraud Game: Badges of Dishonor, see
this link:

http://thelandfarcewebsite.blogspot.com
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 03:57 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Jim Davis[_1_]
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On Dec 23, 5:51*am, mrmajestic66 wrote:

The fact that *is only a small section of the blog, *less then a page
is regarding donations.


It's there, nonetheless.

It worked for Susan, it can certainly work for
me, soliciting for funds to take on corporate America is a lot better
then selling weed like you and your friends. *


If you think that 14k is a huge amount on your CC, you better rethink
the weed route.

Checked my blog stats you have not been on my sites. Pretty hard to make a comment without looking at what I have say. *


If I slipped past you that easily, I have absoutly nothing to worry
about.
  #8  
Old December 24th, 2007, 12:53 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
mrmajestic66
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On dec. 23, 16:57, Jim Davis wrote:
On Dec 23, 5:51*am, mrmajestic66 wrote:

The fact that *is only a small section of the blog, *less then a page
is regarding donations.


It's there, nonetheless.

It worked for Susan, it can certainly work for
me, soliciting for funds to take on corporate America is a lot better
then selling weed like you and your friends. *


If you think that 14k is a huge amount on your CC, you better rethink
the weed route.

Checked my blog stats you have not been on my sites. Pretty hard to make a comment without looking at what I have say. *


If I slipped past you that easily, I have absoutly nothing to worry
about.


The bottom line for me is that you have absolutely no credibility what
so ever with me or anyone else. The childish and ineffective
trolling and baiting attempts are worthless to me, with over thirty
pages of an intriguing story working on several different levels,
which you have obviously not read a single page. I do not care what
you say and will simply ignore you and your friends from now on.
  #9  
Old December 24th, 2007, 01:15 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
mrmajestic66
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Default The Weiner Brothers VP Tour: One Guides Opinion

On dec. 24, 13:53, mrmajestic66 wrote:
On dec. 23, 16:57, Jim Davis wrote:





On Dec 23, 5:51*am, mrmajestic66 wrote:


The fact that *is only a small section of the blog, *less then a page
is regarding donations.


It's there, nonetheless.


It worked for Susan, it can certainly work for
me, soliciting for funds to take on corporate America is a lot better
then selling weed like you and your friends. *


If you think that 14k is a huge amount on your CC, you better rethink
the weed route.


Checked my blog stats you have not been on my sites. Pretty hard to make a comment without looking at what I have say. *


If I slipped past you that easily, I have absoutly nothing to worry
about.


The bottom line for me is that you have absolutely no credibility what
so ever with me or anyone else. * The childish and ineffective
trolling and baiting attempts are worthless to me, with over *thirty
pages of an intriguing story working on several different levels,
which you have obviously not read a single page. * I do not care what
you say *and will simply ignore you and your friends from now on.- Idézett szöveg elrejtése -

- Idézett szöveg megjelenítése -


This just in from one of my reviews and this is what it is really all
about...........

Good Writer 12/23/2007

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Dawn M.

San Francisco, CA
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For your review of: Warner Brothers VIP Studio Tour

Saved!

Excellent review. I was going to buy tickets for this, and I'm so
glad I decided to check Yelp first. This is a great review. I wonder
if there are any actually good tours. Thanks!
  #10  
Old December 25th, 2007, 01:21 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
mrmajestic66
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Default The Weiner Brothers VP Tour: One Guides Opinion

On Dec 23, 4:57*pm, Jim Davis wrote:
On Dec 23, 5:51*am, mrmajestic66 wrote:

The fact that *is only a small section of the blog, *less then a page
is regarding donations.


It's there, nonetheless.

It worked for Susan, it can certainly work for
me, soliciting for funds to take on corporate America is a lot better
then selling weed like you and your friends. *


If you think that 14k is a huge amount on your CC, you better rethink
the weed route.

Checked my blog stats you have not been on my sites. Pretty hard to make a comment without looking at what I have say. *


If I slipped past you that easily, I have absoutly nothing to worry
about.


I thought that I would also mention regarding the stalking that Jim,
Rog, and Mungbean are also are actually the same person using
different emails and user IDs.
 




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