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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:54:05 -0500, 127.0.0.1 wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:26:12 -0700, Hatunen wrote: There's nothing wrong with government subsidies, per se. IF the people want them. your statements are all well and good but in some places like NYC, the taxation to support city transit riders reaches far and wide to tax people who receive no benefits from mass transit, and that is where resentment for government subsidies begins Oh, and I should add, that's the way voting works; some people don't get their way. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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AMTRAK
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:24:14 -0500, 127.0.0.1 wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:28 GMT, Rita wrote: Especially in New York City. One can't imagine what the city would be like without it. Imagine if everyone attempted to drive a car to work and then park it. people who live 20-50-80 miles away are tolled and taxed to provide that mass transit in NYC, I rarely go into to NYC, and you can be sure that my region is not served by NYC transit so why should I support their mass transit? How do you support it with taxes, the? Which taxes you pay go to NYC transit? What is your region? ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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AMTRAK
"127.0.0.1" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:26:12 -0700, Hatunen wrote: There's nothing wrong with government subsidies, per se. IF the people want them. your statements are all well and good but in some places like NYC, the taxation to support city transit riders reaches far and wide to tax people who receive no benefits from mass transit, and that is where resentment for government subsidies begins Even people who don't ride trains in the NYC area benefit Without the mass transit, the traffic would be much worse than it already is. Plus the City itself would not be able to function, leading to an economic collapse that would effect all non-transit riders in the Metro area. |
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"127.0.0.1" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:28 GMT, Rita wrote: Especially in New York City. One can't imagine what the city would be like without it. Imagine if everyone attempted to drive a car to work and then park it. people who live 20-50-80 miles away are tolled and taxed to provide that mass transit in NYC, I rarely go into to NYC, and you can be sure that my region is not served by NYC transit so why should I support their mass transit? Because if you're within 80 miles of NYC, your local economy depends on a healthy NYC, and that depends on mass transit. |
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AMTRAK
"127.0.0.1" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:04:20 -0700, Hatunen wrote: Oh, and I should add, that's the way voting works; some people don't get their way. I don't get to vote in NY You live in a state. That state helps subsidize NYC regional transit. You vote for state representatives. |
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AMTRAK
Hatunen wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:54:05 -0500, 127.0.0.1 wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:26:12 -0700, Hatunen wrote: There's nothing wrong with government subsidies, per se. IF the people want them. your statements are all well and good but in some places like NYC, the taxation to support city transit riders reaches far and wide to tax people who receive no benefits from mass transit, and that is where resentment for government subsidies begins Oh, and I should add, that's the way voting works; some people don't get their way. What an inane response! |
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AMTRAK
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:38:42 -0500, 127.0.0.1 wrote:
I don't care about traffic around NYC, yet I still subsidize their mass transit New York City always suffers a huge net loss in taxes we pay to both Albany and DC. If you're sore that a small percentage of your taxes go to New York City, move the **** to another state and shut up. Michael If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted. |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:40:03 -0500, 127.0.0.1 wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:53:43 -0500, "Bill" wrote: "127.0.0.1" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:28 GMT, Rita wrote: Especially in New York City. One can't imagine what the city would be like without it. Imagine if everyone attempted to drive a car to work and then park it. people who live 20-50-80 miles away are tolled and taxed to provide that mass transit in NYC, I rarely go into to NYC, and you can be sure that my region is not served by NYC transit so why should I support their mass transit? Because if you're within 80 miles of NYC, your local economy depends on a healthy NYC, and that depends on mass transit. that's a bunch of BS, our area has nothing to do with nyc's economy. according to census data less than 12% of the population here commutes to NYC It's not just commuters that form your connection to The City. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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AMTRAK
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:15:44 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:40:03 -0500, 127.0.0.1 wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:53:43 -0500, "Bill" wrote: "127.0.0.1" wrote in message ... I rarely go into to NYC, and you can be sure that my region is not served by NYC transit so why should I support their mass transit? Because if you're within 80 miles of NYC, your local economy depends on a healthy NYC, and that depends on mass transit. that's a bunch of BS, our area has nothing to do with nyc's economy. according to census data less than 12% of the population here commutes to NYC It's not just commuters that form your connection to The City. That person is just a troll with an abiding prejudice against New York City. Let's let him stew elsewhere. Michael If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted. |
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127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 wrote:
Hatunen wrote: 127.0.0.1 wrote: your statements are all well and good but in some places like NYC, the taxation to support city transit riders reaches far and wide to tax people who receive no benefits from mass transit, and that is where resentment for government subsidies begins Everyone in the regioin ultimately receives benefits from mass transit. and do you believe in the tooth fairy too? Fewer drivers means less congestion and pollution. miguel -- Hundreds of travel photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu/ |
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