Valuable Insight (A Note On How To Read Newsgroups)

This Thread came to fruition by means of thoughts provoked by the first
reply to a recent thread regarding "Reviews Needed" asking how much will be
paid for writing such reviews. Those who read newsgroups that are shallow
enough, not open minded, gave up on a debate/discussion because they are not
swayed by any argument to the extent that they stand ground on held position(s)
of topic(s), were insulted by any means including but not limited to meeting a
superior match of intellect, or for any reason(s) I have ommited, and choose to
ignore (killfile, etc.) anyone on usenet speak volumes of the type of mindset
(and maturity level) that they carry. Simply put, a threat to killfile anyone
makes you look like a quitter. One would think that a discussion/debate forum
such as Usenet which is opinionated and can offer heated topic debate would be
the last place for a quitter.

Another thought that comes to mind regarding quitters, is that (as
mentioned by others) even if you could killfile, you would see the postings
from those killfiled cut and pasted by others that are not. Correct me if I am
wrong, as I have little knowledge of killfile since I have never used (for
reasons mentioned above), nor will ever use anything that resembles the purpose
and function of such a thing.

A final and most important thought comes to mind regarding the topic of
ignoring any other Usenet User(s), hence the title and main body of subject
matter of this Thread; By avoiding certain postings, you may be missing out on
valuable insight and information, not to mention becoming more cultured about
how other people think and what their views are on certain topics. Information
has long been bought and sold in many forms....books, music, movies,
newspapers, magazines, etc., etc. There are plenty of Travel and Cruise Books
which people spend money on everyday. Gaining valuable insight from others
(some of which have spent in the millions of dollars over a lifetime of world
travel like myself) of where to go, where not to go, what to do, what not to
do, what and where to eat and not eat, what shops to patronize and which ones
to avoid, best and worst places and times to travel, best and worst ways to get
there and back, etc., etc. will not only have been missed out on, but the time
it took to share said useful and valuable information will be wasted too. Just
some thoughts and opinions I have *that I would like to share free of charge
and hopefully with everyone*.

NookeyBear
"Thanks for telling us about that out of the way secret cove to go swimming in.
It was the highlight of our vacation and we would have never known about it had
you not shared (or we had not read) the information" Usenet is not only a
wealth of useful information, it can be entertaining as well.....not bad
considering the cost.

BN - I have read and re-read your post. To my consternation I do not
understand one word you have written. But that is nothing in itself as I
am the lucky receipient of an award for being the most confused poster
in r t c.
I have also read your other posts and have much difficulty dgesting
them. I have even gone to your web site which if I was confused before I
am totally lost now.
Therefore, it is with apology I shall have to skip over your posts in
future

SUNNY........really does hope one day to be able to fathom your
writings

S'nd I

In article , Bare Nookey
wrote:

A final and most important thought comes to mind regarding the topic of
ignoring any other Usenet User(s), hence the title and main body of subject
matter of this Thread; By avoiding certain postings, you may be missing out on
valuable insight and information, not to mention becoming more cultured about

My insight is that people who usually argue most vehemently agianst
kill files are usually trolls. They don't like to be ignored.

By avoiding certain postings you can avoid trolls, racists, porn,
people who post expletives, idiots, spam, fanatics, off-topic posts and
threads and information you have no interest in reading. Since
rec.travel.cruises is unmoderated it is a way of doing your own
moderating. A kill file capability makes reading rec.travel.cruises or
other Usenet unmoderated newsgroups easier and more interesting.

Another thought that comes to mind regarding quitters, is that (as
mentioned by others) even if you could killfile, you would see the
postings from those killfiled cut and pasted by others that are not.
Correct me if I am wrong, as I have little knowledge of killfile
since I have never used (for reasons mentioned above), nor will ever
use anything that resembles the purpose and function of such a thing.

You can kill file the thread or kill file those who constantly reply to
those in your kill file if you don't want to read the cut and pasted
quoted text. For those with more initiative and an advanced newsreader
that allows filtering by regular expressions and references headers,
and some script writing knowledge, if we want to, we can kill file the
replies to those who cut and paste from those in our kill files. In
other words, if I kill file you, I could kill file the posts in a
thread that have references to your posts with cuts and pastes.

--
Charles

My insight is that people who usually argue most vehemently agianst
kill files are usually trolls

There are exceptions to the rules in anything. You miss out on advertising when
you block spam. You *could be* missing out on insight and valuable
complimentary information when you killfile. "Skipping" over things after
eyeballing for a synopsis works just as well. I take it you have marked *me* as
a "Troll" for having the opinion that killfiles are a waste. In any event, I
hope to gain as much as I put into things on Usenet. I see the glass of life as
half full, not half empty.

NookeyBear

BN - I have read and re-read your post. To my consternation I do not
understand one word you have written. But that is nothing in itself as I
am the lucky receipient of an award for being the most confused poster
in r t c.
I have also read your other posts and have much difficulty dgesting
them. I have even gone to your web site which if I was confused before I
am totally lost now.
Therefore, it is with apology I shall have to skip over your posts in
future

SUNNY........really does hope one day to be able to fathom your
writings

S'nd I


Best of luck on all your Usenet Endeavors, even if you have "skipped" over this
and/or do not understand this sentence.

NookeyBear

BN - I have read and re-read your post. To my consternation I do not
understand one word you have written. But that is nothing in itself as I
am the lucky receipient of an award for being the most confused poster
in r t c.
I have also read your other posts and have much difficulty dgesting
them. I have even gone to your web site which if I was confused before I
am totally lost now.
Therefore, it is with apology I shall have to skip over your posts in
future

SUNNY........really does hope one day to be able to fathom your
writings

Oh and by the way, if you were being facetious, forgive me for not picking up
on your sense of humor more rapidly.

Nookey

They don't like to be ignored.

Why bother posting something if not everyone is going to read it. Plus, I would
think the threads would get a bit confusing sometimes if you only have part of
what is being said.

off-topic posts

Every newsgroup I have ever read has OT posts. Even group related posts turn OT
half way through and spark more unrelated/semi related discussion.

NookeyBear

Bare Nookey wrote:

My insight is that people who usually argue most vehemently agianst
kill files are usually trolls


There are exceptions to the rules in anything. You miss out on advertising when
you block spam. You *could be* missing out on insight and valuable
complimentary information when you killfile. "Skipping" over things after
eyeballing for a synopsis works just as well. I take it you have marked *me* as
a "Troll" for having the opinion that killfiles are a waste. In any event, I
hope to gain as much as I put into things on Usenet. I see the glass of life as
half full, not half empty.

NookeyBear

NB, It would help if you show who you are responding to, makes it a
little easier to follow a thread.

sue

Bare Nookey wrote:

They don't like to be ignored.


Why bother posting something if not everyone is going to read it.

When I post it is because I have something to say or add, but I do not
expect everyone to read every post I make. Most of us have a life away
from the computer and don't have the time or interest to read "every" post.

sue

Subject: Valuable Insight (A Note On How To Read Newsgroups)
From: Sue and Kevin Mullen
Date: 9/28/2003 6:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:



Bare Nookey wrote:

My insight is that people who usually argue most vehemently agianst
kill files are usually trolls


There are exceptions to the rules in anything. You miss out on advertising
when
you block spam. You *could be* missing out on insight and valuable
complimentary information when you killfile. "Skipping" over things after
eyeballing for a synopsis works just as well. I take it you have marked
*me* as
a "Troll" for having the opinion that killfiles are a waste. In any event,
I
hope to gain as much as I put into things on Usenet. I see the glass of
life as
half full, not half empty.

NookeyBear

NB, It would help if you show who you are responding to, makes it a
little easier to follow a thread.

sue

How's this?

NB