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disorderly conduct?
Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom
stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you. |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:24:25 +0000 (UTC), "Mike V." wrote:
Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you. I'd think any guy named both "Mike" and "Sally" would know all those details already... -- Larry |
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On Sep 1, 5:24 pm, "Mike V." wrote:
Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you. Obviously there is a set of secret hand signals you know nothing about. Ask yourself this question. If you are in a public toilet stall and there is another guy in next stall, would you extend your foot to touch his? Would you put your hand under the partition to signal him? Therein lies your answer. |
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"PeterL" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 1, 5:24 pm, "Mike V." wrote: Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you. Obviously there is a set of secret hand signals you know nothing about. Ask yourself this question. If you are in a public toilet stall and there is another guy in next stall, would you extend your foot to touch his? Would you put your hand under the partition to signal him? Therein lies your answer. Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper. Besides, we are supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why should the government get involved in something between consenting adults? F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it should not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example. |
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disorderly conduct?
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:56:08 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper. If the guy in the next stall didn't have a clue about these hand signals (i.e., he was straight or not a cop), how would he know you need paper just because he saw your hand waving around? How about ASKING for some paper? Besides, the hand waving followed the shoe rubbing. Wide stance? ROFLMAO. Besides, we are supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why should the government get involved in something between consenting adults? This was in public, not someone's private home. If he wanted to bonk some guy all night in his home, the gov't wouldn't care (unless he was in the deep south that is). His wife might be a bit put out though. F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it should not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example. Non-smoking laws do not bar smoking in private homes. |
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"Carole Allen" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:56:08 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper. If the guy in the next stall didn't have a clue about these hand signals (i.e., he was straight or not a cop), how would he know you need paper just because he saw your hand waving around? How about ASKING for some paper? Besides, the hand waving followed the shoe rubbing. Wide stance? ROFLMAO. Besides, we are supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why should the government get involved in something between consenting adults? This was in public, not someone's private home. If he wanted to bonk some guy all night in his home, the gov't wouldn't care (unless he was in the deep south that is). His wife might be a bit put out though. F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it should not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example. Non-smoking laws do not bar smoking in private homes. But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers. And maybe the cop ignored the plea for paper. Tell me where in the Constitution it gives those powers to the government to control private actions. And there are cities that have banned smoking in your own house if there is a possibility of a child being in the building. |
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:33:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers. And maybe the cop ignored the plea for paper. Tell me where in the Constitution it gives those powers to the government to control private actions. The stalls were located in a public building. Closed, oh please, you can see right into most stalls via the door frame gaps with little effort. Besides, most of us learned long ago to CHECK to make sure we have paper before we get down to business. He'd have been better off going to a gay bar and getting a room. And there are cities that have banned smoking in your own house if there is a possibility of a child being in the building. Such as? |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 1, 5:24 pm, "Mike V." wrote: Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you. Obviously there is a set of secret hand signals you know nothing about. Ask yourself this question. If you are in a public toilet stall and there is another guy in next stall, would you extend your foot to touch his? Would you put your hand under the partition to signal him? Therein lies your answer. Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper. I certainly wouldn't know if someone was waving his hand under the partition that he wanted some paper. What's wrong with "Hey, mate, couldja pass me some bumwipe?" Besides, we are supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why should the government get involved in something between consenting adults? Because the body politic has decided that sex in public washrooms is socially unacceptable. We live in something that is trying hard to become a democracy--in that system one is only as free as the majority wants one to be. F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it should not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example. Uh, where in the US is it unlawful to smoke in a private residence? -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Carole Allen" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:56:08 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper. If the guy in the next stall didn't have a clue about these hand signals (i.e., he was straight or not a cop), how would he know you need paper just because he saw your hand waving around? How about ASKING for some paper? Besides, the hand waving followed the shoe rubbing. Wide stance? ROFLMAO. Besides, we are supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why should the government get involved in something between consenting adults? This was in public, not someone's private home. If he wanted to bonk some guy all night in his home, the gov't wouldn't care (unless he was in the deep south that is). His wife might be a bit put out though. F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it should not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example. Non-smoking laws do not bar smoking in private homes. But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers. And yet Craig was peeping into the cop's stall, so they don't seem to be all _that_ closed. And maybe the cop ignored the plea for paper. If so then howcum Craig never mentioned that he asked the cop for paper? Tell me where in the Constitution it gives those powers to the government to control private actions. Tell us where in the Constitution the states are prohibited from doing so. The Constitution limits the powers of the Federal government--it only limits the states to the degree that the courts have decided to extend it. And there are cities that have banned smoking in your own house if there is a possibility of a child being in the building. Which cities are those? The closest I can find is a ban in Citronelle, AL, on smoking in private residences used as commercial day care facilities. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"Carole Allen" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:33:44 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers. And maybe the cop ignored the plea for paper. Tell me where in the Constitution it gives those powers to the government to control private actions. The stalls were located in a public building. Closed, oh please, you can see right into most stalls via the door frame gaps with little effort. Besides, most of us learned long ago to CHECK to make sure we have paper before we get down to business. He'd have been better off going to a gay bar and getting a room. Yep. "Freedom" doesn't mean we can do anything we want anywhere. If you were the parent or grandparent of a 7-year-old, would you want him using the stall next door? What would you say if he ask you about it? ("daddy, why were those two men in the same stall making those noises?") And, although I can't say in this case, certain facilities get a reputation for meeting up, which is probably why the cop was there in the first place, trying to stop the practice. They need a signal for "meet me in room 365 at the Holiday Inn". That's legal. |
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