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Old September 2nd, 2007, 01:24 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Mike V.
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Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom
stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is
not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 04:22 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:24:25 +0000 (UTC), "Mike V." wrote:

Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom
stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is
not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you.


I'd think any guy named both "Mike" and "Sally" would know all those details
already...

-- Larry
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 04:27 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
PeterL
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On Sep 1, 5:24 pm, "Mike V." wrote:
Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a bathroom
stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar is
not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you.



Obviously there is a set of secret hand signals you know nothing
about.

Ask yourself this question. If you are in a public toilet stall and
there is another guy in next stall, would you extend your foot to
touch his? Would you put your hand under the partition to signal
him? Therein lies your answer.

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Old September 2nd, 2007, 06:56 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Calif Bill
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"PeterL" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 1, 5:24 pm, "Mike V." wrote:
Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of a
bathroom
stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink in a bar
is
not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law. Thank you.



Obviously there is a set of secret hand signals you know nothing
about.

Ask yourself this question. If you are in a public toilet stall and
there is another guy in next stall, would you extend your foot to
touch his? Would you put your hand under the partition to signal
him? Therein lies your answer.


Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper. Besides, we are
supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why
should the government get involved in something between consenting adults?
F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it should
not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you
can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example.


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Old September 2nd, 2007, 07:20 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Carole Allen[_1_]
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:56:08 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper.


If the guy in the next stall didn't have a clue about these hand
signals (i.e., he was straight or not a cop), how would he know you
need paper just because he saw your hand waving around? How about
ASKING for some paper? Besides, the hand waving followed the shoe
rubbing. Wide stance? ROFLMAO.

Besides, we are
supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why
should the government get involved in something between consenting adults?


This was in public, not someone's private home. If he wanted to bonk
some guy all night in his home, the gov't wouldn't care (unless he was
in the deep south that is). His wife might be a bit put out though.

F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it should
not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you
can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example.

Non-smoking laws do not bar smoking in private homes.



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Old September 2nd, 2007, 07:33 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Calif Bill
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"Carole Allen" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:56:08 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper.


If the guy in the next stall didn't have a clue about these hand
signals (i.e., he was straight or not a cop), how would he know you
need paper just because he saw your hand waving around? How about
ASKING for some paper? Besides, the hand waving followed the shoe
rubbing. Wide stance? ROFLMAO.

Besides, we are
supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the time. Why
should the government get involved in something between consenting adults?


This was in public, not someone's private home. If he wanted to bonk
some guy all night in his home, the gov't wouldn't care (unless he was
in the deep south that is). His wife might be a bit put out though.

F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places it
should
not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to say you
can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example.

Non-smoking laws do not bar smoking in private homes.




But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers. And maybe the cop
ignored the plea for paper. Tell me where in the Constitution it gives
those powers to the government to control private actions.

And there are cities that have banned smoking in your own house if there is
a possibility of a child being in the building.


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Old September 2nd, 2007, 07:46 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Carole Allen[_1_]
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:33:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers. And maybe the cop
ignored the plea for paper. Tell me where in the Constitution it gives
those powers to the government to control private actions.


The stalls were located in a public building. Closed, oh please, you
can see right into most stalls via the door frame gaps with little
effort. Besides, most of us learned long ago to CHECK to make sure
we have paper before we get down to business. He'd have been better
off going to a gay bar and getting a room.

And there are cities that have banned smoking in your own house if there is
a possibility of a child being in the building.

Such as?

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Old September 2nd, 2007, 11:58 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
J. Clarke[_2_]
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Calif Bill wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 1, 5:24 pm, "Mike V." wrote:
Can someone explain to me why sliding your hand along the edge of
a
bathroom
stall is a criminal offense, but offering to buy a woman a drink
in
a bar is
not? I am a traveler and just trying to understand USA law.
Thank
you.



Obviously there is a set of secret hand signals you know nothing
about.

Ask yourself this question. If you are in a public toilet stall
and
there is another guy in next stall, would you extend your foot to
touch his? Would you put your hand under the partition to signal
him? Therein lies your answer.


Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper.


I certainly wouldn't know if someone was waving his hand under the
partition that he wanted some paper. What's wrong with "Hey, mate,
couldja pass me some bumwipe?"

Besides, we
are supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the
time. Why should the government get involved in something between
consenting adults?


Because the body politic has decided that sex in public washrooms is
socially unacceptable. We live in something that is trying hard to
become a democracy--in that system one is only as free as the majority
wants one to be.

F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in
to lots of places it should not. Why should any government entity
in
the USA have a right to say you can not smoke inside your own house?
Just one example.


Uh, where in the US is it unlawful to smoke in a private residence?

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Old September 2nd, 2007, 12:11 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
J. Clarke[_2_]
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Carole Allen" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:56:08 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
Put your hand under to signal him you need some paper.


If the guy in the next stall didn't have a clue about these hand
signals (i.e., he was straight or not a cop), how would he know you
need paper just because he saw your hand waving around? How about
ASKING for some paper? Besides, the hand waving followed the shoe
rubbing. Wide stance? ROFLMAO.

Besides, we are
supposed to be the "land of the free". Getting less so all the
time. Why should the government get involved in something between
consenting adults?


This was in public, not someone's private home. If he wanted to
bonk
some guy all night in his home, the gov't wouldn't care (unless he
was in the deep south that is). His wife might be a bit put out
though.

F'n government keeps extending it's tentacles in to lots of places
it should
not. Why should any government entity in the USA have a right to
say you can not smoke inside your own house? Just one example.

Non-smoking laws do not bar smoking in private homes.




But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers.


And yet Craig was peeping into the cop's stall, so they don't seem to
be all _that_ closed.

And maybe the cop
ignored the plea for paper.


If so then howcum Craig never mentioned that he asked the cop for
paper?

Tell me where in the Constitution it
gives those powers to the government to control private actions.


Tell us where in the Constitution the states are prohibited from doing
so. The Constitution limits the powers of the Federal government--it
only limits the states to the degree that the courts have decided to
extend it.

And there are cities that have banned smoking in your own house if
there is a possibility of a child being in the building.


Which cities are those? The closest I can find is a ban in
Citronelle, AL, on smoking in private residences used as commercial
day care facilities.

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Old September 2nd, 2007, 04:32 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada
Sarah Banick
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"Carole Allen" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:33:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
But the stalls were closed to the outside viewers. And maybe the cop
ignored the plea for paper. Tell me where in the Constitution it gives
those powers to the government to control private actions.


The stalls were located in a public building. Closed, oh please, you
can see right into most stalls via the door frame gaps with little
effort. Besides, most of us learned long ago to CHECK to make sure
we have paper before we get down to business. He'd have been better
off going to a gay bar and getting a room.


Yep.

"Freedom" doesn't mean we can do anything we want anywhere. If you were the
parent or grandparent of a 7-year-old, would you want him using the stall
next door? What would you say if he ask you about it? ("daddy, why were
those two men in the same stall making those noises?")

And, although I can't say in this case, certain facilities get a reputation
for meeting up, which is probably why the cop was there in the first place,
trying to stop the practice. They need a signal for "meet me in room 365 at
the Holiday Inn". That's legal.


 




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