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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!! |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
"Oelewapper" wrote in
: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!! Actually, quite credible since all of the US has now backed out of the WMD scenario and as much as admits it was a hoax (except for The and Pan). -- "I'm the master of low expectations." GWB, aboard Air Force One, 04Jun2003 |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that for a
living but are not supposed to get caught! Myc "Oelewapper" wrote in message ... Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying on Iraq - on BBC radio: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/geoffhoon.ram Sensational. Incredible stuff... !!!! |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
In rec.food.cooking Mycroft wrote:
Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that for a living but are not supposed to get caught! It all stems from the fact that when honest politicians tell the truth, they get voted out of office. The truth sometimes hurts. Jimmy Carter can attest to what happens when you run a truthful political campaign. |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
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In rec.food.cooking Mycroft wrote: Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that for a living but are not supposed to get caught! It all stems from the fact that when honest politicians tell the truth, they get voted out of office. The truth sometimes hurts. Jimmy Carter can attest to what happens when you run a truthful political campaign. You mean the truth according to Jimmy Carter? Putting aside the subjective nature of "truth", you are wrong that he lost because of his campaign. He lost because he was a terrible leader and inept to boot. History will not judge his presidency kindly. Jarg |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 19:00:51 +0000, Jarg wrote:
wrote in message ... In rec.food.cooking Mycroft wrote: Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that for a living but are not supposed to get caught! It all stems from the fact that when honest politicians tell the truth, they get voted out of office. The truth sometimes hurts. Jimmy Carter can attest to what happens when you run a truthful political campaign. You mean the truth according to Jimmy Carter? Putting aside the subjective nature of "truth", you are wrong that he lost because of his campaign. He lost because he was a terrible leader and inept to boot. History will not judge his presidency kindly. He mostly lost because of the deep recession that putting inflation under control required. |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
"devil" wrote in message
news On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 19:00:51 +0000, Jarg wrote: .. He mostly lost because of the deep recession that putting inflation under control required. I'm not sure many economists would concur withh your views about the necessity of a recession to control inflation. Certainly in other times inflation has been controlled without recession. In any case, that was only one reason he lost the election. You are overlooking his foreign policy failures, the Iran hostage crisis and Afghanistan for example. Nice enough man but he exuded impotence. Jarg |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
"Jarg" wrote in message news wrote in message ... In rec.food.cooking Mycroft wrote: Shocking! A politician lying............hang on a minute they do that for a living but are not supposed to get caught! It all stems from the fact that when honest politicians tell the truth, they get voted out of office. The truth sometimes hurts. Jimmy Carter can attest to what happens when you run a truthful political campaign. You mean the truth according to Jimmy Carter? Putting aside the subjective nature of "truth", you are wrong that he lost because of his campaign. He lost because he was a terrible leader and inept to boot. History will not judge his presidency kindly. Jarg History looks at Jimmy Carter very kindly. As for his presidency, I don't think that history will give it much thought, as it wasn't noted for war-mongering and personal scandals. Certainly he had his problems to overcome, like the hostage crisis, but he had his successes, like Camp David. |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)
In article , Jarg
wrote: You mean the truth according to Jimmy Carter? Putting aside the subjective nature of "truth", you are wrong that he lost because of his campaign. He lost because he was a terrible leader and inept to boot. History will not judge his presidency kindly. Jarg Sorry but it's the American people that history will look unkindly on. We were terrible, petulant followers during Carter's Presidency, unworthy of being led anywhere other than death valley. |
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SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBCRadio)
Stark Raven wrote:
Sorry but it's the American people that history will look unkindly on. We were terrible, petulant followers during Carter's Presidency, unworthy of being led anywhere other than death valley. You forgot that Carter got Egypt and Israel to sign a real, long lasting peace agreement that has lasted to this day. That is quite an achievement considering that none of the other presidents were able to get anything real done. A president doesn't have 100% control over the ecomomy. He can help steer it, but he can't steer it. It is possible that Carter may not have steered it sufficiently in the right direction (or perhaps helped steer it in wrong direction). But it isn't 100% his own doing. (and yes, that applies to Bush as well, although Bush definitely has streered it very much in the wrong direction over his whole stay at the white house) As far as the Iran hostages issue, which was Carter's real undoing at the 1980 elections, it would have happened to any USA president at the helm during that time period. |
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