How to pack light, some tips

"Rog'" wrote in message
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"William Black" wrote:
There's very little you can't buy in most European cities.
You can just leave everything at home and take a shed
load of cash and a bundle of gold credit cards.

... and much of what you can buy in abroad will have more
cachet than what you have in your closet, anyway.

Any ideas (for my wife) on how to pack for these limits:
US-Europe... 23kg (50lbs) ea. (2 allowed);
Inside Europe... a total of 20 kg (44 lbs); and
Inside Greece... a total of 15lkg. (33lbs.)....
plus a carry-on.
I said, pack for the least weight allowed, which went
over like a lead-balloon. =R=

In a word, no...

Bring what you think you'll need, Europe is reasonably casual just about
everywhere. The only place you'll be expected to wear a tie is in a posh
restaurant. Last time I was in church I was the only person wearing a
tie...

Try and avoid tourist clichés in your dress and appearance and you'll be
treated better.

European styles in clothing are radically different to those in the USA, be
aware that people will know you're 'not from around here'.

Always remember that you can claim the VAT charged on major purchases when
you leave the EC.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"Chris Blunt" kirjoitti
om...

No, I certainly don't *need* GPS, but its was very nice to have while
driving around Thailand a few weeks ago. On several occasions it made
finding locations we were visiting a lot easier.

True. I find GPS gadget typically very practical too. Did you have a
roadmap of Thailand installed to the phone?

Gawd, it makes one wonder how everyone survived WITHOUT GPS for all those
centuries of exploration. The Vikings STILL discovered America WITHOUT GPS.

"Magda" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:06:03 -0400, in rec.travel.europe, "Rog'"
arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this:

... A few years ago, my wife and I were in a shop in Brussels,
... and she arrived at the counter with her hands full. At that
... point, I pulled out a CC, handed it to the shopkeeper and
... said, "My job is to pay." He nodded and replied, "As it is
... of husbands, everywhere."

Fine, let her be irresponsible and do whatever she wants - hope you like
the hernia YOU
are going to get.


Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.

"sharx35" wrote in message
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. No, you do NOT need GPS unless you are, perhaps, on safari

Or on a walking holiday somewhere...

E-mails can be checked at any one of the MILLIONS of cyber cafes in the
world.

Cyber cafes are disappearing fast in Europe. Everyone has a computer,
wireless access is available in many town centres, and even in some rural
areas. I don't think there's a cyber cafe within forty miles of where I
live these days, there used to be half a dozen, but I can get free
wireless access down at my local pub..

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
ti.fi...


I have arranged my travels so that there is little need to be instantly
available. When I want to be in touch to outside world I lease a computer
for a moment to send and receive mail. Sometimes it can be beneficial to
book for mass transportation in advance by phone but I leave this to the
hotel personnel. That's why they are there in the first place (typically
the language barrier hinders me to contact the agent anyways).

Why do you restrict yourself to environments where you don't need a phone.

Mine is mainly used as an alarm clock when I'm on holiday, and a means of
contacting my wife if we separated somewhere we're unfamiliar with.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:01:58 GMT, "sharx35"
wrote:


"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Chris Blunt" kirjoitti
om...

No, I certainly don't *need* GPS, but its was very nice to have while
driving around Thailand a few weeks ago. On several occasions it made
finding locations we were visiting a lot easier.

True. I find GPS gadget typically very practical too. Did you have a
roadmap of Thailand installed to the phone?

Gawd, it makes one wonder how everyone survived WITHOUT GPS for all those
centuries of exploration. The Vikings STILL discovered America WITHOUT GPS.

The Vikings discovering America was like a drunk discovering
the dunny out the back of a pub; instead of turning left to
**** on the wall he turned right and found the toilet.
Similarly, they probably went off to visit Aunt Helga in
West Greenland and got lost.

Maybe if Ericson and Columbus had had GPS they would not
have got lost, Ericson would have found Aunt Helga and
Columbus would have found Calcutta and the Americas would
still be Indian.

Cheers, Alan, Australia

William Black wrote:

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti
om...

I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free
stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a
mobile phone seems silly.

Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one.

Some people go to places where a mobile phone will work and there aren't any
public phones.

I makes a certain amount of sense to carry a PAYG mobile with a few pounds
credit on it just in case you have a nasty experience.

And a phone is very slim and light nowadays. The charger is a bit more
of a pain to carry in fact, especially as I have to take an adapter for
it. Some UK chargers have a removable UK plug, which exposes euro or us
etc. adaptors.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007

"sharx35" wrote in message
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"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"Chris Blunt" kirjoitti
om...

No, I certainly don't *need* GPS, but its was very nice to have while
driving around Thailand a few weeks ago. On several occasions it made
finding locations we were visiting a lot easier.

True. I find GPS gadget typically very practical too. Did you have a
roadmap of Thailand installed to the phone?

Gawd, it makes one wonder how everyone survived WITHOUT GPS for all those
centuries of exploration. The Vikings STILL discovered America WITHOUT
GPS.

I wonder how many died trying...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"sharx35" wrote in message
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Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.



Define 'high maintenance' in this case please.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

sharx35 wrote:
"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"Chris Blunt" kirjoitti
om...

No, I certainly don't *need* GPS, but its was very nice to have
while driving around Thailand a few weeks ago. On several
occasions
it made finding locations we were visiting a lot easier.

True. I find GPS gadget typically very practical too. Did you have
a
roadmap of Thailand installed to the phone?

Gawd, it makes one wonder how everyone survived WITHOUT GPS for all
those centuries of exploration. The Vikings STILL discovered America
WITHOUT GPS.

Discovering America is easy--if you sail west from Europe it's pretty
hard to miss.

Discovering Aunt Millie's new place when Aunt Millie is one of those
can't give comprehensible directions is another story.

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