New York Times questions timing of Obama family Australia/ Indonesia

Earl Evleth writes:

Taking vacation at home is not taking a vacation!
A vacation is when you go to someplace special.

Life is tough. If you want to be President, you can forego away-from-home
vacations for four years.

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:

I think that a president should go around the Untied States and
speak and see the situation first hand. He can do that without too
much disruption in most cases.

Have you ever been nearby when the President is visiting?

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:

Jimmy Carter locked himself in the White House.

Good.

writes:

At some point I suspect he will have blamed almost every segment of
America for whatever bull**** socialism he is trying to run up our
asses. Might I suggest he fly over the Bermuda Triangle on his way
there.

Might be difficult, as the ETs don't always respect TFRs.

On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:27:52 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:


No. It costs taxpayers too much to transport him and his family anywhere. I
believe Presidents should take their vacations at home. If that's not
acceptable to them, they can resign.

It's a bit like asking if people working at the South Pole during the winter
should be entitled to take vacations back home. The answer is no, because it's
too expensive and impractical. Anyone who cannot live without a home vacation
should not apply for a job at the South Pole.

I'm the farthest thing from a supporter of Obama but that is just
unrealistic. there can be extremes but this petty bickering isn't
helpful.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:

I think that a president should go around the Untied States and
speak and see the situation first hand. He can do that without too
much disruption in most cases.

Have you ever been nearby when the President is visiting?

Is there a point you are trying to make? Of course a president
should consider the potential disruption of a visit to a specific
location. However, there are plenty of places he could go that
wouldn't cause undue commotion.



--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

Mxsmanic wrote:

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:

Jimmy Carter locked himself in the White House.

Good.

This is one of the reasons he's a one termer.




--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

Brian wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:27:52 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

No. It costs taxpayers too much to transport him and his family anywhere. I
believe Presidents should take their vacations at home. If that's not
acceptable to them, they can resign.

It's a bit like asking if people working at the South Pole during the winter
should be entitled to take vacations back home. The answer is no, because it's
too expensive and impractical. Anyone who cannot live without a home vacation
should not apply for a job at the South Pole.

I'm the farthest thing from a supporter of Obama but that is just
unrealistic. there can be extremes but this petty bickering isn't
helpful.

It's just stupid to claim that a president shouldn't move around.
Anyone who is claiming that, whether about Bush, Reagan or Obama,
should be shouted down.




--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

On 14/03/10 2:01, in article ,
" wrote:

since Mr. Bobblehead took office.


A bit more respect for your intellectual superiors.

From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"

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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:38:20 +0000
Subject: New York Times questions timing of Obama family Australia/
Indonesia trip: No real diplomatic reason to go but it is the kids' spring
break. Date night was cheap by comparison , but this?



mg wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:56 pm, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep
furiously)" wrote:
mg wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:20 am, "ODONOVAN, Himself" wrote:
New York Times questions timing of Obama family Australia/ Indonesia
trip: No real diplomatic reason to go but it is the kids' spring
break. Date night was cheap by comparison , but this?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/714zEvleths

Excerpt:

"..The trip is unusual, experts say, in that there is no economic
summit or other multinational gathering for the president to
attend..."

IOW just a taxpayer funded junket for the kids and the whole Obama
entourage?

A president can go anywhere he wants, just ask Bush and Reagan, and
that even includes a president who happens to be a Democrat, by the
way.

"Bush on track to become the vacation president

Because Bush went to his private ranch, that has something to do
with Obama taking trips to Asia with his family? And a president is
never on "vacation" so this tally is just stupid. When Bush went to
his ranch in Texas, he used that as a jumping off point to visit
farther west than would usually be easy on a day trip. This is a
good thing.-

So, when Bush and Reagan went on vacation, they weren't really going
on vacation, but when Obama goes on vacation, he is really going on
vacation. Is that correct?

Stop lying.

What is a lie about the above statement? Also this really seems to be a
tempest in a teapot this time, since Obama had postponed his trip to
Indonesia because of the health care reform bill.

You tend to use the words "lying" and "liar" far too often.

Donna Evleth