London travelcard sold at Gatwick?

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
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tim.... wrote:

"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote in message
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Frank Hucklenbroich wrote in
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so I'll just get my travelcard at the Airport.

I recommend not to. You should get oyster for adult travellers, even if
you find it difficult to buy one at first, which I doubt though. Oyster
is far more conventient and gives you better fares than any paper
ticket, so do get it.

It saves him 50p (a day),

Really? TFL gives the prices for day tickets as being the same...

So they are,

why would anyone who expects to only need a day pass ever bother with
Oyster?

tim

"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
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"Frank Hucklenbroich" wrote in message
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Hello,

I was wondering if you can buy a London-travelcard at Gatwick Airport
upon
arrival?
I know that it is not valid to travel from Gatwick into the city, so I'll
be taking the Gatwick-Express for that. But I read that they are doing
major refurbishment at Victoria-Station (where the Gatwick-Express
arrives), and that you might not be able to buy tube-tickets there (I
have
to go on to Paddington). So it would be very comfortable if I could buy
my
travelcard right at the airport.

Regards,

Frank

If all you want to do is travel Gatwick/Victoria/Paddington you need a
Gatwick to Zone 1 ticket.

This will charge you the cash fare of 4 pounds for Zone 1.

tim

"tim...." wrote in message
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"Graham Harrison" wrote in
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"Frank Hucklenbroich" wrote in message
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Hello,

I was wondering if you can buy a London-travelcard at Gatwick Airport
upon
arrival?
I know that it is not valid to travel from Gatwick into the city, so
I'll
be taking the Gatwick-Express for that. But I read that they are doing
major refurbishment at Victoria-Station (where the Gatwick-Express
arrives), and that you might not be able to buy tube-tickets there (I
have
to go on to Paddington). So it would be very comfortable if I could buy
my
travelcard right at the airport.

Regards,

Frank

If all you want to do is travel Gatwick/Victoria/Paddington you need a
Gatwick to Zone 1 ticket.

This will charge you the cash fare of 4 pounds for Zone 1.

tim




Nope. It's £12 for an adult all the way to Paddington. Victoria alone is
£12.50 plus whatever the Underground costs.

Even if it was more expensive it's a much easier way to go - Farringdon only
has 4 parallel platforms against the 17(?) in the mainline station plus the
2 you need to find for the Circle Line.

"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
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"tim...." wrote in message
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"Graham Harrison" wrote in
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"Frank Hucklenbroich" wrote in message
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Hello,

I was wondering if you can buy a London-travelcard at Gatwick Airport
upon
arrival?
I know that it is not valid to travel from Gatwick into the city, so
I'll
be taking the Gatwick-Express for that. But I read that they are doing
major refurbishment at Victoria-Station (where the Gatwick-Express
arrives), and that you might not be able to buy tube-tickets there (I
have
to go on to Paddington). So it would be very comfortable if I could buy
my
travelcard right at the airport.

Regards,

Frank

If all you want to do is travel Gatwick/Victoria/Paddington you need a
Gatwick to Zone 1 ticket.

This will charge you the cash fare of 4 pounds for Zone 1.

tim




Nope. It's £12 for an adult all the way to Paddington. Victoria alone
is £12.50 plus whatever the Underground costs.

Even if it was more expensive it's a much easier way to go - Farringdon
only has 4 parallel platforms against the 17(?) in the mainline station
plus the 2 you need to find for the Circle Line.

PS if you do go via Farringdon make sure you specify that and that you want
to travel on First Capital Connect or they may well sell you the tickets via
Victoria.

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

"tim...." wrote in
:

It saves him 50p (a day),

Really? TFL gives the prices for day tickets as being the same...

So they are,

I think there was a price difference years ago, maybe they changed that.

why would anyone who expects to only need a day pass ever bother with
Oyster?

The main advantage is that the system applies the best fare between a
collection of single tickets and day pass. If you don't know in the
morning what trips you'll be doing during the day - typical for
tourists - you don't need to make up your mind, just let the system
decide later.

Indeed, not just tourists- I benefit from that frequently....

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)

"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
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"tim...." wrote in message
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"Graham Harrison" wrote in
message ...

"Frank Hucklenbroich" wrote in message
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Hello,

I was wondering if you can buy a London-travelcard at Gatwick Airport
upon
arrival?
I know that it is not valid to travel from Gatwick into the city, so
I'll
be taking the Gatwick-Express for that. But I read that they are doing
major refurbishment at Victoria-Station (where the Gatwick-Express
arrives), and that you might not be able to buy tube-tickets there (I
have
to go on to Paddington). So it would be very comfortable if I could buy
my
travelcard right at the airport.

Regards,

Frank

If all you want to do is travel Gatwick/Victoria/Paddington you need a
Gatwick to Zone 1 ticket.

This will charge you the cash fare of 4 pounds for Zone 1.

tim




Nope. It's £12 for an adult all the way to Paddington.

But only on Thameslink via Farringdon routing.

You can't use this ticket on the trains to Victoria.

Victoria alone is £12.50 plus whatever the Underground costs.

Even if it was more expensive it's a much easier way to go - Farringdon
only has 4 parallel platforms against the 17(?) in the mainline station
plus the 2 you need to find for the Circle Line.

I agree that for this particular route this does make some sense, but it
doesn't work for every zone 1 destination.

And I can't see how it matters how many "arriving" platforms a station has.
The passenger is never going to have to search out his arriving platform,
all he has to do is follow the signs to his departing platform

tim

"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote in message
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"tim...." wrote in
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It saves him 50p (a day),

Really? TFL gives the prices for day tickets as being the same...

So they are,

I think there was a price difference years ago, maybe they changed that.

It must have been this year, because there was definately a discount last
year.

why would anyone who expects to only need a day pass ever bother with
Oyster?

The main advantage is that the system applies the best fare between a
collection of single tickets and day pass. If you don't know in the
morning what trips you'll be doing during the day - typical for
tourists - you don't need to make up your mind, just let the system
decide later.

I appreciate that, but I find it hard to believe that any tourist in London
is going to go out for the day and not know that they are going to make less
than three journeys. Once you get over this you are up to the price of a
(Z1-2) day pass so you might as well buy one!

YMMV

tim

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

"tim...." wrote in
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The main advantage is that the system applies the best fare between a
collection of single tickets and day pass. If you don't know in the
morning what trips you'll be doing during the day - typical for
tourists - you don't need to make up your mind, just let the system
decide later.

I appreciate that, but I find it hard to believe that any tourist in
London is going to go out for the day and not know that they are going
to make less than three journeys.

Well I don't. When I'm in a foreign city I make vague plans what might
interest me, but from then on I just stroll around and decide
spontaneously in what place I want to stay longer or not.

Specific to London, I've said before here that when possible (weather is
a factor) the city is best explored on foot. When visitors spend too
much time in the underground they sometimes don't get a sense for the
geography (the famous tube map is misleading) nor do they realise how
close various sites actually are. When visiting London for leisure I've
frequently avoided public transport (or cabs) entirely, but I've either
been staying centrally or visiting by train.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)

"Frank Hucklenbroich" wrote in message
. ..
Hello,

I was wondering if you can buy a London-travelcard at Gatwick Airport upon
arrival?
I know that it is not valid to travel from Gatwick into the city, so I'll
be taking the Gatwick-Express for that. But I read that they are doing
major refurbishment at Victoria-Station (where the Gatwick-Express
arrives), and that you might not be able to buy tube-tickets there (I have
to go on to Paddington). So it would be very comfortable if I could buy my
travelcard right at the airport.

Regards,

Frank

Ask on uk.railway, they are very helpful!

Specific to London, I've said before here that when possible (weather is
a factor) the city is best explored on foot. When visitors spend too
much time in the underground they sometimes don't get a sense for the
geography (the famous tube map is misleading) nor do they realise how
close various sites actually are.

When the historic heritage business starts doing the walking tour from
Tottenham to Croydon to Enfield with the participants dressed in the
historically authentic hoodie, it will feel as long as the pilgrimage
to Santiago.

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