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short break in Verona
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san zeno romanic church ( main chruch in verona romanic style) house of Juliet so called Tomb of Juliet.. with museum of paintings the hill defences called : torricelle arche scaligere ( tombs of Della Scala family) the archeological excavations under the Palazzo Comunale.. Piazza delle Erbe . the old medioeval fruits and vegetables market with the tower that you can climb and allows you to have a magnificent view of the town.. and finally the castle and the medioeval bridge.. Close to Verona I would go and visit Mantova about 30 kms away with the palace of the dukes and the famous Camera degli sposi by Andrea mantegna again.. every place is italy is a small museum every old duke palace boasts so many old paintings and sculptures that one will be soon tired.. Near mantova virgil was born .. in Andes ( today Pietole ) while Catullus had his villa in the peninsula of Sirmione on the garda lake.. Sirmio.. paene insularum ocelle.. said the poet Sirmione.. pearl of the peninsulas.. remnants of catullus villa are still to be seen. "Mean Mama" ha scritto nel messaggio news:F6G9b.366182$Oz4.143865@rwcrnsc54... Verona can easily fill several days. Like anywhere else, it depends on your interests . . . It is fairly compact, and you can easily walk from the arena to the various piazze, etc. The Teatro Romano on the other side of the river has a great small archeologico museum where I particularly enjoyed the remnants of roman flooring. Also near the teatro is Santa Maria in Organo, which has awesome inlaid woodwork in the choir. Ask the sacristan if he will take you back into the sacristy to see the cabinets there--they are amazing!Personally I would suggest at least bringing along (but preferably also reading ahead) an informative guide book. The tourist information office has nice little pamphlets on the attractions and a map. The museum of the Castelvecchio is top of my list for my next visit to Verona. We have also been to Trento, Bolzano, Parma, Soave, etc. and Venice from Verona, but truly--wandering around Verona for a long weekend would be simply lovely! "randee" wrote in message ... We found plenty to do in Verona for four or five days, one of my favorite towns. This time of year the opera may still be in season. There are some interesting shops, several historical sites dating to Roman times, and a museum or two. The other towns mentioned, such as Padova, are indeed interesting and only a short train ride away. You are only 90 minutes or so from Venice by train, but Venice never held much interest for us, too damp, moldy and crowded. Now 90 minutes to the north and you are in Bozen, a possible base for exploring the Dolomites, which I find a lot more interesting than Venice. As an aside I didn't realize Ryanair went to VRN. -- wf. "N! Xau" wrote: "andyhumphriss" wrote in message ... Thanks to Ryanair, (God, I love 'em!) we are off to Verona for 3 nights next week. Any tips or advice would be much appreciated. Is it worth taking the train to Venice, or will Verona itself keep us busy? You may consider other options in that region (Veneto). Padova is a very very beautiful town. Vicenza, Treviso are certainly worth of a visit. There are other very interesting minor centers. Take a look at: http://www.initaly.com/regions/veneto/veneto.htm Venezia is great, but I'd prefere to visit it having a little more time. bye N! Xau -- wf. Wayne Flowers Randee Greenwald |
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"tile" wrote in message . .. pls note that Bozen is the german version of the italian name Bolzano. Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.- it is a bilingual region and IME the two languages are German and "anything except Italian" Trentino Alto Adige / Suedtirol but Italians will always call this town Bolzano.- in the same way Trento is translated Trient Merano is translated Meran as far as I know, in major towns the majority of the population is of Italian mother tongue.-. Not a single person spoke to me in Italian. At the time I knew not a word of German and the negative reaction I got to my Italian caused me to get by in English. tim "randee" ha scritto nel messaggio ... We found plenty to do in Verona for four or five days, one of my favorite towns. This time of year the opera may still be in season. There are some interesting shops, several historical sites dating to Roman times, and a museum or two. The other towns mentioned, such as Padova, are indeed interesting and only a short train ride away. You are only 90 minutes or so from Venice by train, but Venice never held much interest for us, too damp, moldy and crowded. Now 90 minutes to the north and you are in Bozen, a possible base for exploring the Dolomites, which I find a lot more interesting than Venice. As an aside I didn't realize Ryanair went to VRN. -- wf. "N! Xau" wrote: "andyhumphriss" wrote in message ... Thanks to Ryanair, (God, I love 'em!) we are off to Verona for 3 nights next week. Any tips or advice would be much appreciated. Is it worth taking the train to Venice, or will Verona itself keep us busy? You may consider other options in that region (Veneto). Padova is a very very beautiful town. Vicenza, Treviso are certainly worth of a visit. There are other very interesting minor centers. Take a look at: http://www.initaly.com/regions/veneto/veneto.htm Venezia is great, but I'd prefere to visit it having a little more time. bye N! Xau -- wf. Wayne Flowers Randee Greenwald |
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"tim" "tile" wrote Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.- it is a bilingual region and IME the two languages are German and "anything except Italian" Incidentally, in the province of Trento (Trentino), which makes up one half of the region, nobody speaks a German dialect as their first language. M. |
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"tim" wrote .. Not a single person spoke to me in Italian. At the time I knew not a word of German and the negative reaction I got to my Italian caused me to get by in English. Sure you did not knock at the 'SuedTirol Shutzen' door? bye N! Xau |
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"Matteo B" wrote in message . .. "tim" "tile" wrote Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.- it is a bilingual region and IME the two languages are German and "anything except Italian" Incidentally, in the province of Trento (Trentino), which makes up one half of the region, nobody speaks a German dialect as their first language. Yes I did notice that in one town everyone spoke German and somewhere else they didn't. But it was so long ago I can't remember which was which tim M. |
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It seems like everybody in Brixen and Meran refers to Bozen as Bozen.
It certainly appeared to us that German was far more widely spoken than Italian in Bozen, Brixen and Meran, although I think we did hear some Italian also in all of those towns. Any of them could probably be used as a starting point for exploring the Dolomites, but the towns are interesting themselves. Both Bozen and Verona have interesting markets. Forgot to mention that Bologna would be another 90 minute train trip, but to the south, from Verona. Another good day trip from Verona. But as others have mentioned, there is enough to do in Verona itself for 3 days. -- wf. tile wrote: pls note that Bozen is the german version of the italian name Bolzano. Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.- it is a bilingual region Trentino Alto Adige / Suedtirol but Italians will always call this town Bolzano.- in the same way Trento is translated Trient Merano is translated Meran as far as I know, in major towns the majority of the population is of Italian mother tongue.-. |
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I just want to say thank you to everybody who posted a reply to my original
question. I never fail to be amazed by the wealth of knowledge and experience displayed by you all! But perhaps more important, is your generosity in terms of time and spirit. Thanks to all Andy "tile" wrote in message . .. You do not mention san zeno romanic church ( main chruch in verona romanic style) house of Juliet so called Tomb of Juliet.. with museum of paintings the hill defences called : torricelle arche scaligere ( tombs of Della Scala family) the archeological excavations under the Palazzo Comunale.. Piazza delle Erbe . the old medioeval fruits and vegetables market with the tower that you can climb and allows you to have a magnificent view of the town.. and finally the castle and the medioeval bridge.. Close to Verona I would go and visit Mantova about 30 kms away with the palace of the dukes and the famous Camera degli sposi by Andrea mantegna again.. every place is italy is a small museum every old duke palace boasts so many old paintings and sculptures that one will be soon tired.. Near mantova virgil was born .. in Andes ( today Pietole ) while Catullus had his villa in the peninsula of Sirmione on the garda lake.. Sirmio.. paene insularum ocelle.. said the poet Sirmione.. pearl of the peninsulas.. remnants of catullus villa are still to be seen. "Mean Mama" ha scritto nel messaggio news:F6G9b.366182$Oz4.143865@rwcrnsc54... Verona can easily fill several days. Like anywhere else, it depends on your interests . . . It is fairly compact, and you can easily walk from the arena to the various piazze, etc. The Teatro Romano on the other side of the river has a great small archeologico museum where I particularly enjoyed the remnants of roman flooring. Also near the teatro is Santa Maria in Organo, which has awesome inlaid woodwork in the choir. Ask the sacristan if he will take you back into the sacristy to see the cabinets there--they are amazing!Personally I would suggest at least bringing along (but preferably also reading ahead) an informative guide book. The tourist information office has nice little pamphlets on the attractions and a map. The museum of the Castelvecchio is top of my list for my next visit to Verona. We have also been to Trento, Bolzano, Parma, Soave, etc. and Venice from Verona, but truly--wandering around Verona for a long weekend would be simply lovely! "randee" wrote in message ... We found plenty to do in Verona for four or five days, one of my favorite towns. This time of year the opera may still be in season. There are some interesting shops, several historical sites dating to Roman times, and a museum or two. The other towns mentioned, such as Padova, are indeed interesting and only a short train ride away. You are only 90 minutes or so from Venice by train, but Venice never held much interest for us, too damp, moldy and crowded. Now 90 minutes to the north and you are in Bozen, a possible base for exploring the Dolomites, which I find a lot more interesting than Venice. As an aside I didn't realize Ryanair went to VRN. -- wf. "N! Xau" wrote: "andyhumphriss" wrote in message ... Thanks to Ryanair, (God, I love 'em!) we are off to Verona for 3 nights next week. Any tips or advice would be much appreciated. Is it worth taking the train to Venice, or will Verona itself keep us busy? You may consider other options in that region (Veneto). Padova is a very very beautiful town. Vicenza, Treviso are certainly worth of a visit. There are other very interesting minor centers. Take a look at: http://www.initaly.com/regions/veneto/veneto.htm |
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Luca Logi wrote: Nor exactly in the same way: only the Bolzano/Bozen province has a multilingual status (Italian, German and Ladino, a neolatine language closely related to the Swiss Rumatsch), which involve multiple place names. The German name of Trento is unofficial (of course, when the whole region was under Austria, the German name was widely used). In English it was historically called "Trent" (as in the Council of Trent). When visiting Bolzano/Bozen some years ago, I noticed that "Herr Bischof Wilhelm" was confirming the German-speaking kids at nine o'clock, while "il nostro Vescovo Guglielmo" was performing the same service for Italian-speaking kids at 11. The two prelates were, of course, teh same man! Elections were on at the time, and almost all the parties had posters on dispaly in both Italian and German. The two exceptions were the Suedtiroler Volkspartei, whose poster showed an Aryan-looking couple skipping through a meadow, and the MSI-DN, as it then was, whose leader was coming to address "gli italiani di Bolzano". A rather disturbing experience was to stand in the churchyard at Brennero/Brenner, looking at the war memorial and realising that the young men commemorated there died for a country 500 yards up the road, fighting against the country in which their memorial now stands. Alan Harrison |
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