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Property Rights vs. Human Rights in the USA
Three days ago I said:
The victims are our fellow citizens of the United States of America. Most of the stranded are poor and Black because, for the most part, they ARE Black and poor. Were they neither poor nor Black, would the rescue efforts differ? I am appalled and disgusted by the obvious lack of concern for our fellow citizens being demonstrated by the Bush Administration. Day 'fore yesterday I said: Last week, I thought I couldn't possibly think less of that despicably arrogant and incompetent son of Connecticut aristocracy. A few minutes ago, I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". He also used "property rights" and "human rights" (see subject above) in the same sentence. Zhu De wrote: God help these people It already did! Now it's our turn: http://redcross.org. __________________________________________________ _________________ Thank God I'm an Atheist. http://geocities.com/dancefest / - http://geocities.com/iconoc/ ICQ: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098 103 --- IClast at SFbay Net |
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Icono Clast wrote:
I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". The moron just keeps talking. "Allowing" them to die of dehydration and starvation? When he supplied the Superdome and the convention center with neither food nor water? (Who in New Orleans died of starvation in less than a week, by the way?) When he failed to follow his own evacuation plan, to use buses to get the poor out of town? How many vans do you think the mayor had running on election day, ferrying those very same people to the polls? And all he can do is blame others and now play the race card. Despicable AND incompetent. |
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Icono Clase wrote:
Last week, I thought I couldn't possibly think less of that despicably arrogant and incompetent son of Connecticut aristocracy. A few minutes ago, I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". And since you too keep throwing the race card into it, let's hear it: What's your evidence that George Bush, personally and alone, held back relief because the victims were black? Please, articulate for us how he manipulated a federal relief plan that provides (as do all such plans) that the local government will be in charge for the first few days before federal relief can arrive. Enlighten us. Or was it just a cheap partisan shot? In that case, please articulate for us how it helps to take cheap partisan shots in a time of national emergency? |
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Nile wrote:
Icono Clase wrote: Last week, I thought I couldn't possibly think less of that despicably arrogant and incompetent son of Connecticut aristocracy. A few minutes ago, I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". And since you too keep throwing the race card into it, let's hear it: What's your evidence that George Bush, personally and alone, held back relief because the victims were black? Please, articulate for us how he manipulated a federal relief plan that provides (as do all such plans) that the local government will be in charge for the first few days before federal relief can arrive. Enlighten us. Or was it just a cheap partisan shot? In that case, please articulate for us how it helps to take cheap partisan shots in a time of national emergency? Your posting is a cheap partisan shot. |
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Icono Clast wrote: Three days ago I said: The victims are our fellow citizens of the United States of America. Most of the stranded are poor and Black because, for the most part, they ARE Black and poor. Were they neither poor nor Black, would the rescue efforts differ? I am appalled and disgusted by the obvious lack of concern for our fellow citizens being demonstrated by the Bush Administration. Day 'fore yesterday I said: Last week, I thought I couldn't possibly think less of that despicably arrogant and incompetent son of Connecticut aristocracy. A few minutes ago, I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". He also used "property rights" and "human rights" (see subject above) in the same sentence. Clearly race. Primarily black New Orleans gets help and primarily white nearby locals get nothing. |
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Nile wrote: Icono Clast wrote: I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". The moron just keeps talking. "Allowing" them to die of dehydration and starvation? When he supplied the Superdome and the convention center with neither food nor water? (Who in New Orleans died of starvation in less than a week, by the way?) When he failed to follow his own evacuation plan, to use buses to get the poor out of town? How many vans do you think the mayor had running on election day, ferrying those very same people to the polls? And all he can do is blame others and now play the race card. Despicable AND incompetent. Yes. The photos of the NO busses sitting there flooded should get the idiot run out of town. |
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Yes. The photos of the NO busses sitting there flooded should get the idiot run out of town. Or, run INTO town. |
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Nile wrote:
Icono Clase wrote: Last week, I thought I couldn't possibly think less of that despicably arrogant and incompetent son of Connecticut aristocracy. A few minutes ago, I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". And since you too keep throwing the race card into it, let's hear it: What's your evidence that George Bush, personally and alone, held back relief because the victims were black? I do not believe that the White House resident is personally a racist. In fact, I believe that most Southerners his age and younger are not [Please see THE NEW(!) SOUTH http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/TheSouth.html at the site at Right in the sig.] Nor do I believe that he "held back relief" for any reason. It appears that he did absolutely nothing to provide relief to anyone for far longer than is within the bounds of normal decency, morality and leadership. Please, articulate for us how he manipulated a federal relief plan that provides (as do all such plans) that the local government will be in charge for the first few days before federal relief can arrive. In charge/out charge, we all saw that nothing was being done. Who among us would not have ordered every emergency agency within, say, 200, miles to get their asses down there to do whatever they could with whatever they had? Enlighten us. Just did. Or was it just a cheap partisan shot? In that case, please articulate for us how it helps to take cheap partisan shots in a time of national emergency? In a time of national emergency, when lives are at stake, there is no place for partisanship. I would be equally vehement against any incompetent idiot obviously lacking any sense of humanity and/or empathy. __________________________________________________ _________________ Remembering Ronald Reagan: Let Us Remember Lest We Forget http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/rReagan.html#t |
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"Icono Clast" wrote in message news:1126005210.99929e4d25e8479a09431f8888360ad0@t eranews... Nile wrote: Icono Clase wrote: Last week, I thought I couldn't possibly think less of that despicably arrogant and incompetent son of Connecticut aristocracy. A few minutes ago, I heard the mayor of New Orleans say he didn't know whether allowing so many of our fellow citizens to die from dehydration and hunger was the result of (in paraphrase) "class or race". And since you too keep throwing the race card into it, let's hear it: What's your evidence that George Bush, personally and alone, held back relief because the victims were black? I do not believe that the White House resident is personally a racist. In fact, I believe that most Southerners his age and younger are not [Please see THE NEW(!) SOUTH http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/TheSouth.html at the site at Right in the sig.] Nor do I believe that he "held back relief" for any reason. It appears that he did absolutely nothing to provide relief to anyone for far longer than is within the bounds of normal decency, morality and leadership. Please, articulate for us how he manipulated a federal relief plan that provides (as do all such plans) that the local government will be in charge for the first few days before federal relief can arrive. In charge/out charge, we all saw that nothing was being done. Who among us would not have ordered every emergency agency within, say, 200, miles to get their asses down there to do whatever they could with whatever they had? Enlighten us. Just did. Or was it just a cheap partisan shot? In that case, please articulate for us how it helps to take cheap partisan shots in a time of national emergency? In a time of national emergency, when lives are at stake, there is no place for partisanship. I would be equally vehement against any incompetent idiot obviously lacking any sense of humanity and/or empathy. And yet I see not a word of criticism of the officials at state and city levels who opened storm refuges like the superdome and made no attempt to stock them with food or water. The simple reality is that the disaster plans for the state were supposed to be based on the premise that federal aid would not arrive for between 72 and 96 hours and that the state and city should have stockpiles to cover the intervening period. They failed to accumulate those stockpiles as they failed to mobilise the national guard and evacuate those without their own transport. The disaster plan called for the school bus fleet to be used for evacuating the latter group. Those school buses never moved from their now flooded compound. There were indeed failures all round but most egregious were those at state and city level who are the people elected to serve and protect the local population. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 02:40:35 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
wrote: Clearly race. Primarily black New Orleans gets help and primarily white nearby locals get nothing. The population of New Orleans proper was 80% black, and New Orleans proper is the part of the area that flooded, so certainly blacks are getting most of the help there. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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