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I am surprised to see that the price for a cruise on Cunard's Queen Victoria
in grill is so high given that there is a credit crunch on.

I used to be able to get queens grill on a 14/16 day lateish deal Med cruise
for around £3,000 each, not only is it now more expensive but it is sold
out.

Will this alter when Cunard have three ships again?


Thank you

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:29:03 +0100, "Nobody" wrote:

I am surprised to see that the price for a cruise on Cunard's Queen Victoria
in grill is so high given that there is a credit crunch on.

I used to be able to get queens grill on a 14/16 day lateish deal Med cruise
for around £3,000 each, not only is it now more expensive but it is sold
out.


Hi,

I think you answered your own question. Cruising remains very popular
and the British are leading the demand. The UK is one of the fastest,
if not the fastest, growing cruise markets. I know my bookings from
the UK are up significantly each year over the prior year.

Will this alter when Cunard have three ships again?
It should help the supply side of the equation but the new ship sold
out her inaugural within a few minutes of becoming available.


Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:40:49 -0700, Ray Goldenberg
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:29:03 +0100, "Nobody" wrote:

I am surprised to see that the price for a cruise on Cunard's Queen Victoria
in grill is so high given that there is a credit crunch on.

I used to be able to get queens grill on a 14/16 day lateish deal Med cruise
for around £3,000 each, not only is it now more expensive but it is sold
out.


Hi,

I think you answered your own question. Cruising remains very popular
and the British are leading the demand. The UK is one of the fastest,
if not the fastest, growing cruise markets. I know my bookings from
the UK are up significantly each year over the prior year.

Will this alter when Cunard have three ships again?
It should help the supply side of the equation but the new ship sold
out her inaugural within a few minutes of becoming available.


Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
Another factor on the Grill issue is that Victoria is considered by
many to be a Grill favored ship. There isproportionately more private
area for Grill passengers than on the Queen Mary 2 for instance. I
have heard some grumbling that non Grill passengers find the
experience more prominent - ie on QM2 one knows of the Grill but does
not run into it as a barrier, whereas on Victoria one is aware of the
difference.

Hope that makes sense.
Joseph Coulter
Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations
www.josephcoulter.com

[Default] Thus spake Joseph Coulter :

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:40:49 -0700, Ray Goldenberg
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:29:03 +0100, "Nobody" wrote:

I am surprised to see that the price for a cruise on Cunard's Queen Victoria
in grill is so high given that there is a credit crunch on.

I used to be able to get queens grill on a 14/16 day lateish deal Med cruise
for around £3,000 each, not only is it now more expensive but it is sold
out.


Hi,

I think you answered your own question. Cruising remains very popular
and the British are leading the demand. The UK is one of the fastest,
if not the fastest, growing cruise markets. I know my bookings from
the UK are up significantly each year over the prior year.

Will this alter when Cunard have three ships again?
It should help the supply side of the equation but the new ship sold
out her inaugural within a few minutes of becoming available.


Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
Another factor on the Grill issue is that Victoria is considered by
many to be a Grill favored ship. There isproportionately more private
area for Grill passengers than on the Queen Mary 2 for instance. I
have heard some grumbling that non Grill passengers find the
experience more prominent - ie on QM2 one knows of the Grill but does
not run into it as a barrier, whereas on Victoria one is aware of the
difference.


Third factor. The rich are different than the rest of us. Most don't
rely on credit. Most house sales over about $2M here in Austin seem
to be cash sales.

Hope that makes sense.
Joseph Coulter
Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations
www.josephcoulter.com
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- dillon I am not invalid

"Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out
to be a cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:01:38 -0500, Dillon Pyron
wrote:

Third factor. The rich are different than the rest of us. Most don't
rely on credit. Most house sales over about $2M here in Austin seem
to be cash sales.

Hi Dillon,

All folks that sail on world cruises are not, who most of us, would
call "rich". FWIW, my clients pay the charge card off within the
month it is billed. They are enjoying the fruits of their life-long
labors.
Best regards,
Ray Goldenberg
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http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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In article , Ray Goldenberg
wrote:

All folks that sail on world cruises are not, who most of us, would
call "rich". FWIW, my clients pay the charge card off within the
month it is billed. They are enjoying the fruits of their life-long
labors.

Glad you continue to ignore the people who claim you post only press
releases.

Anyhow I agree with you that being a Grill passenger or taking a world
cruise does not mean those passengers who book those are "rich". Many
save hard earned money to take a world cruise, book a suite or grill
class.

--
Charles

Ray Goldenberg wrote:

Ray Goldenberg
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now that the 4 line rule has gone out the window, can we finally call a
spade a spade and Ray a spammer?

[Default] Thus spake Ray Goldenberg :

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:01:38 -0500, Dillon Pyron
wrote:

Third factor. The rich are different than the rest of us. Most don't
rely on credit. Most house sales over about $2M here in Austin seem
to be cash sales.

Hi Dillon,

All folks that sail on world cruises are not, who most of us, would
call "rich". FWIW, my clients pay the charge card off within the
month it is billed. They are enjoying the fruits of their life-long
labors.

We do. We own our house outright. We pay cash for our cars. As you
said, our "debt" consists of whatever we put on the cards last month.

The difference is that we really can't see the "value proposition" in
the Grill. But on the Victoria, this might be more compelling as the
"value" appears to be there.

But many of us here are, according to the view of most Americans,
"rich". We talking with our financial advisor last week and one of
her comments was interesting. I expressed some concern about our
ability to retire and she said "Dillon, the average 50 year old in the
US is worth about $15,000. The average 40 year old is in debt and the
average 30 year old doesn't understand net worth."
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out
to be a cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"

[Default] Thus spake Charles :

In article , Ray Goldenberg
wrote:

All folks that sail on world cruises are not, who most of us, would
call "rich". FWIW, my clients pay the charge card off within the
month it is billed. They are enjoying the fruits of their life-long
labors.

Glad you continue to ignore the people who claim you post only press
releases.

Anyhow I agree with you that being a Grill passenger or taking a world
cruise does not mean those passengers who book those are "rich". Many
save hard earned money to take a world cruise, book a suite or grill
class.

I agree with this specific statement. And, as you'll see from my
reply to Ray, the value of the Grill is significantly greater on the
Victoria.

But I'll also point out that very few Americans actually take any sort
of cruise. For many, a trip to Disney World is even out of the
question. I'll say the same thing here that I've said in the Disney
parks NG (radp). "We're freaks. Most people who actually go will go
between one and three times. Once as a kid, once as a parent and once
as a grandparent. There are people here who will go three times this
year. I've only been there 16 times."
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out
to be a cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"

On 8/21/09 6:51 AM, in article ,
"Dillon Pyron" wrote:

I expressed some concern about our
ability to retire and she said "Dillon, the average 50 year old in the
US is worth about $15,000.

The CNNMoney.com calculators say that the average net worth of a 50-year old
in the US is $98,350. Based on my limited experience the typical world
cruise passenger is spending her late husband's inheritance.