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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
I have to be in London at the beginning of April.
I have to be in a tiny village in Navarre 20 April. I have to be near Sibiu, Romania early June (but need at least a day in Bucharest first). In between, I'd like to take trains from London to Pamplona, with a few one- or two-day stops along the way. But not too many, because I want to bicycle from Pamplona to Zamora before I report to Villamayor de MonjardÃ*n on the 20th. From Villamayor, bus to ?? and then train to Bucharest around the beginning of June, Again, a few one- or two-day stops along the way would be nice but not to delay my arrival in Bucharest/Sibiu very much. Earlier, someone suggested night trains, to save lodging costs AND keep the day free for wandering. Sounds good. Low cost would be nice, too. Maybe a pass would be worthwhile. While working in Villamayor, I pass my 62nd birthday, if that affects prices. Recommendations? -- Wes Groleau |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:03:40 -0500, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
I have to be in London at the beginning of April. I have to be in a tiny village in Navarre 20 April. I have to be near Sibiu, Romania early June (but need at least a day in Bucharest first). In between, I'd like to take trains from London to Pamplona, with a few one- or two-day stops along the way. But not too many, because I want to bicycle from Pamplona to Zamora before I report to Villamayor de MonjardÃ*n on the 20th. From Villamayor, bus to ?? and then train to Bucharest around the beginning of June, Again, a few one- or two-day stops along the way would be nice but not to delay my arrival in Bucharest/Sibiu very much. Earlier, someone suggested night trains, to save lodging costs AND keep the day free for wandering. Sounds good. Low cost would be nice, too. Maybe a pass would be worthwhile. While working in Villamayor, I pass my 62nd birthday, if that affects prices. Recommendations? From Paris to Spain, there are few night trains: Paris-Austerlitz 21H52 Hendaye Irun 9h25 http://www.sncf.com/ressources/409_0.pdf Paris 21H39-Latour de Carol international station (near Andorra) 7H51 http://www.sncf.com/fr/trains/interc...is-austerlitz- latour-de-carol-luchon-cerbere http://www.sncf.com/fr/trains/intercites/reseau |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On 03-01-2016 05:40, Paul Aubrin wrote:
From Paris to Spain, there are few night trains: THANKS! Been off-line for a week, but I'll look into these, now that I'm back. -- Wes Groleau |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On 1/03/2016 11:40, Paul Aubrin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:03:40 -0500, W. Wesley Groleau wrote: I have to be in London at the beginning of April. I have to be in a tiny village in Navarre 20 April. I have to be near Sibiu, Romania early June (but need at least a day in Bucharest first). In between, I'd like to take trains from London to Pamplona, with a few one- or two-day stops along the way. But not too many, because I want to bicycle from Pamplona to Zamora before I report to Villamayor de MonjardÃ*n on the 20th. From Villamayor, bus to ?? and then train to Bucharest around the beginning of June, Again, a few one- or two-day stops along the way would be nice but not to delay my arrival in Bucharest/Sibiu very much. Earlier, someone suggested night trains, to save lodging costs AND keep the day free for wandering. Sounds good. Low cost would be nice, too. Maybe a pass would be worthwhile. While working in Villamayor, I pass my 62nd birthday, if that affects prices. Recommendations? From Paris to Spain, there are few night trains: Paris-Austerlitz 21H52 Hendaye Irun 9h25 http://www.sncf.com/ressources/409_0.pdf Paris 21H39-Latour de Carol international station (near Andorra) 7H51 http://www.sncf.com/fr/trains/interc...is-austerlitz- latour-de-carol-luchon-cerbere http://www.sncf.com/fr/trains/intercites/reseau I read recently that the SNCF is going to scrap a few night trains, as cheap air flights have made them loss-makers. I can't find the more recent article, but here's an old one: $http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...leeper-service M http://cannes-or-bust.com |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On 03/05/2016 02:32 AM, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
On 03-01-2016 05:40, Paul Aubrin wrote: From Paris to Spain, there are few night trains: THANKS! Been off-line for a week, but I'll look into these, now that I'm back. Overnight sleeper trains are being phased out. |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On 03/11/2016 06:25 PM, Michael wrote:
On 1/03/2016 11:40, Paul Aubrin wrote: On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:03:40 -0500, W. Wesley Groleau wrote: I have to be in London at the beginning of April. I have to be in a tiny village in Navarre 20 April. I have to be near Sibiu, Romania early June (but need at least a day in Bucharest first). In between, I'd like to take trains from London to Pamplona, with a few one- or two-day stops along the way. But not too many, because I want to bicycle from Pamplona to Zamora before I report to Villamayor de MonjardÃ*n on the 20th. From Villamayor, bus to ?? and then train to Bucharest around the beginning of June, Again, a few one- or two-day stops along the way would be nice but not to delay my arrival in Bucharest/Sibiu very much. Earlier, someone suggested night trains, to save lodging costs AND keep the day free for wandering. Sounds good. Low cost would be nice, too. Maybe a pass would be worthwhile. While working in Villamayor, I pass my 62nd birthday, if that affects prices. Recommendations? From Paris to Spain, there are few night trains: Paris-Austerlitz 21H52 Hendaye Irun 9h25 http://www.sncf.com/ressources/409_0.pdf Paris 21H39-Latour de Carol international station (near Andorra) 7H51 http://www.sncf.com/fr/trains/interc...is-austerlitz- latour-de-carol-luchon-cerbere http://www.sncf.com/fr/trains/intercites/reseau I read recently that the SNCF is going to scrap a few night trains, as cheap air flights have made them loss-makers. I can't find the more recent article, but here's an old one: $http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...leeper-service M http://cannes-or-bust.com They may sound romantic bt they make zero commercial sense any more. |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On Thu, 17 Mar 2016, Tom P wrote:
Earlier, someone suggested night trains, to save lodging costs AND keep the day free for wandering. Sounds good. They may sound romantic bt they make zero commercial sense any more. I do not care a bip about romantic, but they make fully sense for the pocket and the time (- time is money) of the passenger. With a night train I can leave after work (possibly after supper) and arrive in the morning say before 8am so that I can start a work meeting at 9am. Any equivalent combination (flight+hotel, high speed train+hotel) is likely to cost more, and waste more time. |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
"Tom P" wrote in message ... On 03/05/2016 02:32 AM, W. Wesley Groleau wrote: On 03-01-2016 05:40, Paul Aubrin wrote: From Paris to Spain, there are few night trains: THANKS! Been off-line for a week, but I'll look into these, now that I'm back. Overnight sleeper trains are being phased out. ITWYM is: Overnight sleeper trains are becoming little used and as such unprofitable (if indeed they ever were profitable) and train operators are realising that the subsidy required to keep them is better spent elsewhere tim |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On 03/18/2016 09:23 AM, Giovanni Drogo wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2016, Tom P wrote: Earlier, someone suggested night trains, to save lodging costs AND keep the day free for wandering. Sounds good. They may sound romantic bt they make zero commercial sense any more. I do not care a bip about romantic, but they make fully sense for the pocket and the time (- time is money) of the passenger. With a night train I can leave after work (possibly after supper) and arrive in the morning say before 8am so that I can start a work meeting at 9am. Any equivalent combination (flight+hotel, high speed train+hotel) is likely to cost more, and waste more time. YOu can actually work after sleeping all night in a train???? |
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Trains in Europe (again)--recommendation
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:23:55 +0100, Giovanni Drogo
wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2016, Tom P wrote: Earlier, someone suggested night trains, to save lodging costs AND keep the day free for wandering. Sounds good. They may sound romantic bt they make zero commercial sense any more. I do not care a bip about romantic, but they make fully sense for the pocket and the time (- time is money) of the passenger. With a night train I can leave after work (possibly after supper) and arrive in the morning say before 8am so that I can start a work meeting at 9am. Any equivalent combination (flight+hotel, high speed train+hotel) is likely to cost more, and waste more time. My wife and I did the same thing once, a number of years ago, not with a train, but a ship from Napoli to Palermo. It worked very well for us. |
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